"bishop's" (?) bag

[tight-wad]

Just made a pitiful looking stuff sack. I don't need a "snakeskin." A stuff sack with a normal opening on one end and a smaller hole on the other for the web connection to the tree would suffice. I seem to remember seeing this called a bishop's bag somewhere???

What's the trick for making the bottom: 1/2 a normal stuff sack bottom, and 1/2 a stuff sack draw cord hole? There's got to be a pattern out there somewhere?

My ugly duckling wound up being a fat sleeve with equal draw cords on each end. It will work, but it doesn't "look good."

[Just Jeff]

Directions here - http://www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeGe...ishopSack.html

You can use a button-hole for the bottom opening, if your machine has that option.

[blackbishop351]

I've got a much nicer and more durable way to make these now...still working out some bugs, though. I'll have info available soon.

[Coffee]

That's what I use now too. Much nicer than the skins for me.

[tight-wad]

Here's what I did this afternoon:
- 14" x 20" piece of scrap 1.9 ripstop
- hem the long ends
- make button holes on each end below the hems
- fold over and rip stitch a seam along the 14" side
- create a "normal" stuff sack draw cord channel on one end
- sew 4 short seams perpendicular to the hem, 2 on each side of the button hole
- about 3" from the button hole
- make one cut on each side between the seams
- (the fun begins) roll the fabric over to create a small draw cord channel
- go slow, just shove the fabric whereever you can
- sew a seam from the bottom of the channel to the edge of the sack body on each side
- you could trim off the excess between these new seams and the hems if you really want to count the grams
- flip it inside out

This isn't water tight, and maybe the 2nd draw cord on the bottom isn't really necessary, but it looks kinda cool.

[blackbishop351]

This isn't water tight, and maybe the 2nd draw cord on the bottom isn't really necessary, but it looks kinda cool.

No stuff sack is watertight unless it has a full rolled closure. Pix would help, btw!

[headchange4u]

A BB sack is my next project. I saw NCPatricks at the SEHHA camp out and I really liked it. One of my favorite uses was how it could be used to store small amounts of gear when the hammock is setup.

I want to make a roll top bag, much like the JRB compression sack, with a length of webbing that can be used in compressing the hammock when storedin the bag. My delima right now it some way to seal the hole in the rear of the sack so that it will be fairly water tight.

EDIT:
BB,
If you don't mind me asking, are you putting round bottoms on the sacks now?

[stoikurt]

Here's what I did this afternoon:
- 14" x 20" piece of scrap 1.9 ripstop
- hem the long ends
- make button holes on each end below the hems
- fold over and rip stitch a seam along the 14" side
- create a "normal" stuff sack draw cord channel on one end
- sew 4 short seams perpendicular to the hem, 2 on each side of the button hole
- about 3" from the button hole
- make one cut on each side between the seams
- (the fun begins) roll the fabric over to create a small draw cord channel
- go slow, just shove the fabric whereever you can
- sew a seam from the bottom of the channel to the edge of the sack body on each side
- you could trim off the excess between these new seams and the hems if you really want to count the grams
- flip it inside out

This isn't water tight, and maybe the 2nd draw cord on the bottom isn't really necessary, but it looks kinda cool.

I don't understand the need for a second draw cord on the bottom. The sack is nothing more and a stuff bag big enough to hold your hammock (and UQ, if used) with a small hole in the bottom for the hammock strap or cord to pass through.

[headchange4u]

I am just going to use a small hole in the bottom with grosgrain trim. I don't see the need for a bottom drawstring either.

[blackbishop351]

A second drawstring is just another way to do this - I've actually tried it because it's more durable than a simple hole (like Jeff's, even with a buttonhole) and easier to sew than what I'm doing now. I didn't like it as well as the current design though.

The design issues you run into with this only come from trying to use the sack as storage while hanging. If you just want a sack to stuff the hammock in, you don't really need to worry about the durability of the hole so much. If you're going to have weight in the sack while it's on the suspension, however, the hole bears a good portion of the weight so you have to make it pretty strong.

Headchange - A previous version used a "normal" square bottom, with some slight modification. It was pretty easy to sew, but didn't end up working quite as well as I wanted for storage. I went to the round bottom because it allowed more optimal hole placement, and it let me easily install the end pocket for strap storage.