Bridge Speed Hooks for HH?

**Kingpin** · 01-03-2015, 22:35

I want to upgrade my stock HH suspension. Based on all of the research I've done so far, I believe I want to go with continuous loops on each end and utilize either speed hooks or bridge speed hooks with an amsteel lead to the stock tree huggers.

Any reason why I should choose one over the other? I lean towards the bridge speed hooks because it seems like there is more surface area for the continuous loop to spread over and distribute weight, thus reducing stress and fatigue of the amsteel. Of course, this is all just theoretical in my mind...

Also, it looks like I can attach an UQ to the bridge speed hooks as well, thus hopefully eliminating extra/separate hardware for the UQ. Any experience/thoughts in that regard?

Thanks for any advice!

Godspeed,
Chase

**GoatHanger** · 01-04-2015, 08:19

I'm about to splice some leads for a few pair of the bridge speed hooks I got. One pair for my Ridgerunner, and the other two pair to try on gathered end hammocks.

I don't necessarily think there will be any less wear on the amsteel using the bridge speed hooks over the traditional ones (where the hook meets the continuous loop anyway), only because it seems that most of the wear comes from the hitch, instead of the attachment point to to the loop. I understand what you mean though, and it does make sense. I've thought it myself. I do think it's better to spread the load over two hooks like the bridge hooks have instead of one, like the regular ones.

That's the fun though isn't it? Trying out different stuff and playing with different setups. I know I dig it. Have fun!

**Kingpin** · 01-06-2015, 10:32

Another issue I have a question about is this....

I'm about to pick up an HH Exped for my wife to use, and it includes some DIY whoopies. Can a whoopie safely and easily be disassembled back into regular amsteel? I hope so, because I want my wife and I to have the same suspension set-up.

**Nodust** · 01-06-2015, 10:57

Originally Posted by Kingpin

Another issue I have a question about is this....

I'm about to pick up an HH Exped for my wife to use, and it includes some DIY whoopies. Can a whoopie safely and easily be disassembled back into regular amsteel? I hope so, because I want my wife and I to have the same suspension set-up.

You will have to cut the bury on the loose end. Or I think you will have to.

**Banjoman** · 01-06-2015, 11:28

Originally Posted by Kingpin

Another issue I have a question about is this....

I'm about to pick up an HH Exped for my wife to use, and it includes some DIY whoopies. Can a whoopie safely and easily be disassembled back into regular amsteel? I hope so, because I want my wife and I to have the same suspension set-up.

Well if you can't easily take out the locked Brummel on one end of the whoopie, you could cut it off and still have enough left over after you pull the adjustable loop out.

Edit: Actually, you could just use the locked brummel to larks head onto your tree hugger (if you go that route)... didn't really think before I typed.

**Kingpin** · 01-06-2015, 12:00

Originally Posted by Nodust

You will have to cut the bury on the loose end. Or I think you will have to.

This way my initial thought. I hope I don't have to cut it out...I hate wasting good material.

**Banjoman** · 01-06-2015, 12:05

Originally Posted by Kingpin

This way my initial thought. I hope I don't have to cut it out...I hate wasting good material.

You won't have to cut it if you use it to larkshead onto your tree hugger. Also, if the locked brummel loop is large enough, you can slip it over the toggle of a marlin spike hitch. Try to be creative before you start cutting.

**Kingpin** · 01-06-2015, 12:08

Originally Posted by Banjoman

Well if you can't easily take out the locked Brummel on one end of the whoopie, you could cut it off and still have enough left over after you pull the adjustable loop out.

Edit: Actually, you could just use the locked brummel to larks head onto your tree hugger (if you go that route)... didn't really think before I typed.

I'm going to try my best to take out the brummel without any damage. I've never worked with amsteel so I was hoping someone may have experienced taking apart a whoopie. I assume as Dutch gear has become more prolific, users are migrating over from whoopies.

The hammock will be in my hands shortly, so I will post results!

**Banjoman** · 01-06-2015, 12:12

Originally Posted by Kingpin

I'm going to try my best to take out the brummel without any damage. I've never worked with amsteel so I was hoping someone may have experienced taking apart a whoopie. I assume as Dutch gear has become more prolific, users are migrating over from whoopies.

The hammock will be in my hands shortly, so I will post results!

It's your move, but I wouldn't be too anxious to get away from whoopie slings. They work great, and if you are hanging with your wife maybe you might want to think about the double hammock whoopie hooks from Dutch?

**Kingpin** · 01-06-2015, 12:20

Originally Posted by Banjoman

It's your move, but I wouldn't be too anxious to get away from whoopie slings. They work great, and if you are hanging with your wife maybe you might want to think about the double hammock whoopie hooks from Dutch?

I considered that option, but what really has me sold on my proposed set up is the ease of set-up and take down. The icing on the cake is the ability to set up between a wider range of distances between trees.