The Torso and Kidney pads are available from HH. Or at least were. I don't understand why they don't advertise them when there are reveiws and quotations from Tom H saying they are an important part of the system. Ask for them specifical;ly when/if you order the set up.
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Yea I haven't even seen them mentioned on the Hennessy website. Are they additional pads to add to the UnderPad or is it a modified UnderPad with the kidney and torso pads added?
Or you can skip all of that and use clothing you are not wearing to bed, or a Garlington Insulator ( several threads here on that) for a significant warmth boost. Or you can use all of the above with the kidney/torso pads. There are quite a few tricks for boosting warmth in the SS.
Of course, if you are going to use extra clothes in the under cover or to make a Garlington Insulator, it will require that you have some extra clothing that is not already a part of your top quilt/bag sleep system. If you are depending on every piece of clothing you have being worn while you sleep in order to be warm enough on top, then naturally you can't count on adding it below for extra insulation.
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Maybe my Heat sheet was not covering me completely, but apart from issues of placement at the feet, it certainly felt like there was coverage.