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    New Member treehouseguy's Avatar
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    Great info. Anybody able to take a picture of the w/ and w/o the Z-Liner?!? How much larger does it pack down to?!?

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    I'm curious as to how badly one would need these.. With a pad a good bag, and even just some zip lock bags filled with air and maybe even some dirty socks. IDk I've slept in my CJH when it was hovering around 26F in a cats meow and a foam pad, long underwear and heavy socks, and i was fine. Even woke up with some ice crystals inside, but still warm. Seems like added weight where you could easily find another way to reduce heat loss.

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    Enough pads will take you as low as you want to go - the mini pillows are just a different option, and we all like options

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