Has anyone gone back to pads after using an underquilt?

**sojourn** · 03-09-2015, 05:36

Motorcycle camper here.I always carry a big Agnes insulated pad just in case I have to go to the ground.

**Pops1954** · 03-11-2015, 23:05

Another Motorcycle camper doing the same thing - Big Agnes pad I have used for years and love - works great in the Eno DN, it allows me more "wiggle room" during the night. I got a 3/4 Jarbridge UQ last year which is definitely warmer and very "cozy" so I use both depending on conditions and always have the pad if I go to ground. Of course I have room for both on the bike. YMMV

**Scotty Von Porkchop** · 03-12-2015, 03:41

Originally Posted by sojourn

Motorcycle camper here.I always carry a big Agnes insulated pad just in case I have to go to the ground.

Originally Posted by Pops1954

Another Motorcycle camper doing the same thing - Big Agnes pad I have used for years and love - works great in the Eno DN, it allows me more "wiggle room" during the night. I got a 3/4 Jarbridge UQ last year which is definitely warmer and very "cozy" so I use both depending on conditions and always have the pad if I go to ground. Of course I have room for both on the bike. YMMV

I know for certain that I can't afford to get a quality inflatable out of there, NZ is even more expensive that the EU.

Well after some playing around I got my UQ in my 60l holdall along with my two tarps, bivy, 2 TQ, an UQ and still had enough room for fancy clothes for the bars ;-) it took a couple of new lightweight purchases of jackets and things but I got my UQ luxury with me so it's all good.

Thanks to everyone who contributed :-*

**oldpappy** · 03-12-2015, 10:20

Have a great trip and don't forget the trip report when you get back.

**stevebo** · 03-12-2015, 12:17

question for all you guys using a pad with your wbrr--------do you have any condensation issues?

**Maddog5150** · 03-13-2015, 20:32

I slept in my WBRR the other night in the basement with a pad. Prolly 65-68 degrees there and in the morning I felt just slightly clammy. I have a feeling outside there would be condensation issues.

**Hangandy** · 03-13-2015, 23:53

Originally Posted by Scotty Von Porkchop

...So my plan is to take my hammock, hex tarp, hug net and, I'm almost ashamed to admit, a bivy bag....

Love to here your opinions.

Hey, Scotty.

You should never apologize for using a bivy sack. A tent maybe but not a bivy. Depending on the outing a hammock may not always be best choice. I love my USGI gore-tex bivy for those times when the terrain may be too extreme or time is of the essence.

Of course I take my cloudburst tarp for weight and coverage, but when the excursion is not about leisure the bivy can be highly functional.

**steveflinn** · 03-21-2015, 06:08

Originally Posted by Scotty Von Porkchop

The reason I ask is I'm about to head off to New Zealand for a couple of months and I know some areas are going to lack trees. So my plan is to take my hammock, hex tarp, hug net and, I'm almost ashamed to admit, a bivy bag and then just pick up a z-lite or similar while I'm there.

Now having used, made and sold a few UQs will I simply hate using a pad again? and should I just pack a bigger heavier bag with both a pad and an UQ ?

Love to here your opinions.

If you want my downy UQ back you'll have to pry it out of my cold, dead buttocks

**steveflinn** · 03-21-2015, 06:10

if it's an excursion, it IS about leisure. unless you're talking about descriptive physics.

**Brownie1** · 03-22-2015, 01:59

Hey there Scotty. I live in the central North Island of New Zealand. If you would rather borrow some gear while you are over here I would be happy to lend you anything - packs, gortex bivvy bags, thermarest pads, cookers, whatever.

Unless you are going up into the higher hills you shouldn't have any issues - NZ is full of bush and trees and there's no restrictions on hanging anywhere on public land. Check out (NZ) Department of Conservation for places to go.

My contact details are: Iain Brown, Waiouru, mobile phone 0275808008.