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    Down, that's so old skool, Aerogel is where it's at!

    Will you be an early adopter? Looks promising, 3mm layer of aerogel provides the equivalent warmth as 40mm of goose down loft. It also can be compressed without loss of insulating ability.

    Check out the kickstarter for your opportunity to score a jacket for 1/2 price at $250.

    Aerogel is the lowest-density solid material that exists. Made almost entirely of air encapsulated in an ultra-light silica matrix, this man-made substance also has superb insulating abilities and has been used by NASA in spacesuits, space shuttles, satellites, and other stellar applications. It's some pretty cool stuff—the aerogel Wikipedia page has some striking photos that demonstrate its remarkable properties.

    Aspen Aerogels of Northborough, Mass., is the largest private developer of commercial aerogel applications. Among other things, they have used aerogel for industrial purposes and as window and home insulation.

    Aerogel has also appeared intermittently in outdoor equipment, including a few winter boots, gloves, water bottle cozies, and sleeping pads. Now it may be on the cusp of becoming available in clothing as well. The potential revolution is this: Unlike goose down or synthetic insulations, aerogel does not need to be nearly as puffy (or lofty) in order to provide the same amount of insulation.

    Last month, Hanesbrands—yes, that venerable maker of underwear—introduced the Champion Supersuit, a jacket and pants combo that use aerogel as its insulation (pictured next to a traditional down jacket). This spring, it will be tested on a summit bid on Mount Everest—you can follow along on their designated Expedition Hanesbrands web site.

    According to the company's press release, the 3mm layer of aerogel provides the equivalent warmth as 40mm of goose down loft. It also can be compressed without loss of insulating ability.

    The new Supersuit is made of four layers. An outer windproof, waterproof layer keeps out the elements. Beneath that is 3mm of Zeroloft, a commercial brand of aerogels produced by Aspen Aerogels. The inner lining of the jacket contains two layers: a "metallicized foil membrane" that reflects radiant body heat and a moisture-wicking polyester inner layer.

    No word yet on whether the Supersuit will be available to consumers—or at what price
    A few links FYI.



    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...token=3fa84022

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...ct-astronauts/

    http://www.aerogel.org/?p=3
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    Whoa. Make a hammock from it and skip packing the UQ!
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    Down, that's so old skool, Aerogel is where it's at!

    Does it breath? Use an air conditioning system

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    Yes, that's the claim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Firesong View Post
    Does it breath?
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    This was the big topic of conversation at BPL about 5 years or so ago. The next "latest & greatest" thing. It fizzled.
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    Same on HF.

    Even Bernie Lazar doesn't even know what to do with it
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    I saw that the guy's video channel I posted had 2 videos and they were 3 years old. Lot's of big claims, little in the way of actual products and the raw product seems crazy high.

    Quote Originally Posted by MAD777 View Post
    This was the big topic of conversation at BPL about 5 years or so ago. The next "latest & greatest" thing. It fizzled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtwheels View Post
    Yes, that's the claim.
    But how well does it breath? There are a lot of so called waterproof, breathable materials out there but most of them still limit breathability a lot. In extreme cold temperatures breathability becomes a big issue for keeping warm as water vapor escapes your body... Still, this is some pretty interesting stuff.

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    I don't see how it could "compress" any more than any other closed cell foam.

    As for insulation currently available to everyone, try newspaper. I once watched a fire retardant demonstration where the guy on the other side of the desk placed 7-10 squares of treated newsprint on the palm of his hand, put a copper penny on the paper and then completely melted it with a map gas torch. Seemed like real good insulation to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmcttr View Post
    I once watched a fire retardant demonstration where the guy on the other side of the desk placed 7-10 squares of treated newsprint on the palm of his hand, put a copper penny on the paper and then completely melted it with a map gas torch.
    Was his name by any chance, G. Gordon Liddy? When he had an audience, he used to stick his hand in a flame to demonstrate his resolve. You kind of new the guy wasn't right from the git go. Lol
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