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    Has this been done? Guyline question

    So, I was thinking a bit on how to lighten my tarp guyline situation and was wondering if anyone had input on this.

    I am currently using Dyneema (6ft) for each of my 4 corners. I then have larksheaded onto each of those tie outs about 6" of shock cord and a home made tarp worm. Then I just adjust as needed.

    Here is the idea I had, using a combination of ideas I have seen on the forum.

    GUYLINE.jpg

    Basically what you have is your stake, then a fixed loop in your line (zing-it, lash-it, dyneema, glow line, mason line, etc). The length of the line has yet to be determined.
    The fixed loop goes around your stake, on your line you have a prussik which is adjustable (duh...), that prussik goes around a toggle (aluminum stock, carbon, titanium, a stick, etc...) that toggle is either connected to your shock cord, or in the case of using a stick from your camp site, a loop would need to be created, then the shock cord would be tied to, or larks headed onto your tarp.

    Here is a close up of the toggle, as for the shock cord, I use 1/8"

    guyline1.jpg


    As for the stick idea, this is what I was thinking

    guyline2.jpg


    Let me know what you guys think.

    Thanks

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    I was thinking that if using a toggle, it would only need to be slightly larger than the knot that is tied into the shock cord. This would lighten your setup in a few different ways, you could use mason line (super light) with a titanium or carbon toggle, and a single line (not a doubled loop) of shock cord. Also, for those of you using a cuben fiber tarp, if you trip over the line in the night, the fact that it is not fully "attached" from tarp to stake, would create a "break point".
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    Skip the toggle. Larkshead the length of line ( zing it for example ) to the Bungie cord. Then place a prussik on that zing it and place the open loop of the prussik over the stake and tighten.

    I have used braided mason line for the last year and found it tangles way too easily. Going back to zing it and lash it. I am using the mason line for making prusiks.
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    Skip the knots. Add in 4 Dutch Fleaz. Problem solved. Boy, I'm lazy.
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    Thanks gunner!, I would have eventually gotten there after wasting time the other way! LOL!

    Effectively, that is just turning the line the opposite way and foregoing the toggle right?

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    so this would be what you are talking about?

    guyline3.jpg

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    so this would be what you are talking about?
    Perfect. I add a loop to the end of the guy line to keep the prussik from slipping off...just in case.

    I recommend using contrasting color lines to make it easier to see which is which
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCOFFMAN83 View Post
    so this would be what you are talking about?

    guyline3.jpg
    Another way would be to larkshead the prusik onto the shock cord and use a marlin spike hitch to secure the line at the stake. I like having the prusik close to the tarp so adjusting the prusik is a little higher up from the gournd plus if you are under the tarp in rain you could just reach out and adjust it without having to go to the stake. Many ways to skin a cat.
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    Excellent alternative
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    In the end, *most* people end up ditching the prussics. I know I did. YMMV.

    There are too many good, no-fuss "mechanical options". I've been through several guy line solutions and the micro line locs are the best option I've found. I believe it was Shane's Method that made them famous. I got rid of the shock cord and use zing it continuous loops since I have a cuben tarp that doesn't stretch. This setup works like a charm. Good luck!

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