Very long hammock design?

[xxl_hanger]

I am currently on hold until I find better materials for splicing tools. My fingertips are killing me

Rosendraht verzinkt 0,37mm
Basteldraht kupfer 0,25mm

I like this one (has all properties I really need: stiff, thin, bendable etc.).

[Snowball]

Rosendraht verzinkt 0,37mm
Basteldraht kupfer 0,25mm

I like this one (has all properties I really need: stiff, thin, bendable etc.).

I don’t think it would work for me. It looks like It’s the opposite direction, thinner and softer than the spring wire I got.
Have been out shopping and saw similar wires like in the links (I think) but it they where way too soft.
I bought some yarn needles so I will try how it works. If not as standard maybe modified.



Tested:
Yarn needles are much better for this but would be even better if they where longer.

[xxl_hanger]

Don't know exactly how thick my green one is. My sliding caliper says about 0.6mm. In Germany you get it in almost all DIY superstores and garden centers. I spliced with it all my Dyneema cords (4mm and 2.5mm) and think even 1.5mm Dyneema would be no problem. I always make a small rounded eye first (~2.3mm wide) and if necessary I have a stitch awl too. But most of the time I can open the cord already with the peak of the eye. This will never damage the cord.

[Snowball]

26 whoopie slings made from 1mm Dyneema. No more whoopie slings for the next few days
It’s about 7-8 hours work but could be done faster with better tools.
1mm whoopie slings.jpg

[Snowball]

First test hang.
First impression it’s very comfortable! Now the fine tuning starts.
Data:
161” long total (408cm)
60” wide (152cm) (- 2x hem)
Fabric 89” (225cm)
32 1mm Dyneema Whoopie slings.
The foot end whoopie slings is approx 6” longer than the head end.
Fabric 1.9oz Ripstop nylon
Ridge line, none yet
Weight, 11.85oz (335 gram) without Suspension Systems and ridgeline
Double layer channel in both ends.
4mm stiff cord in the channel.

It’s very different than all my other hammocks.
Calf ridge is none existing.

I am unsure if it can be done in lighter fabric for a person in my weight class (88 kg) because I can see the fabric is opening up just a bit along the seam. Could be the weaving is looser in this material?
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BTW
If your are bored reading about this blame WV & Foxpoop (source of inspiration) Thanks guys

[Snowball]

I guess I was lucky with the first test hang. Before the first test didn’t adjust the whoopie slings to the same length and still it was comfortable.
After adjusting approx 10 lines it has improved even more. I got curious and wanted to see if the length was the main factor for the comfort so I reduced the length by using a Marlinspike Hitch in both ends (two minute job). I ended up at around 11’. In my experience the length is a factor but not as much as I expected. At 11’ it was still very comfortable and if the lines was made for 11’ I am relative sure it could be adjusted for even more comfort.
The benefit of this hammock style is the “micro adjusting” we can do.
As little as 3/8” (1 cm) on one line makes a difference and it also makes a difference in what end its made.

In hindsight if it was possible to adjust a “full fabric” hammock to this level it would IMO not be worth the effort making all the whoopie slings because it is a lot of work but I do not know of any methods that would match this one in details. I have tried pulling fabric in various whipping methods but it’s no match vs. the lines.
Don’t know if there is any downsides but time will show.

[xxl_hanger]

I believe that u have a very nice lay in such a hammock. I have already seen something similar sewn by Derek Hansen and I think from Exped. Don't know where. There is on great opportunity. U can take almost any old hammock and make something similar. U can also have a RL and a bug net as I have seen it here:

http://www.bergfreunde.de/2000_1500_...gematte-bf.jpg

[Scotty Von Porkchop]

WOW amazing work Snowball! Its got me thinking about copying with a 3mm aluminium rod where the 4mm stiff cord goes to get a flatter lay and whether I could use less whoopies if I did

[Snowball]

This is not my idea I just adopted it.

An old hammock could be recycled and made into this if it’s the right fabric. If not it may require some reinforcement in the channel but I am sure WV knows a lot more about that than I do.

A knot in a tube (1-2 inches long) may work but requires a bigger channel otherwise it be a pain to mount them. Less splicing but more bulk.
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I could no decide how many lines I would use. I ended up with 4 more in etch end. I feared too few would create ridges.

I found the first fault on this hammock. The knots on the channel line ends. They sticks to the thin whoopies almost every time I get in hammock. It’s not a big issue but……. It’s simple because a knot has edges so they have to go.
I may change the channel cord. The 4mm Dyneema I original planned to use was out of stock. I think Dyneema is 1/3 to ½ the weight lighter but it’s not as stiff and that is a downside so ……….

[WV]

I use hollow braid spectra (dyneema) fishing line that may be a looser braid than the line you used. I've used 120 lb. test line and 200 lb test line. These are both much smaller diameter, so the splicing is done with a much smaller tool. There are latch-needle splicing tools that look like miniature loop turners. Check fishing supply stores. Smitty's latch needle kit is a set of 3 tools that work well, and they're less expensive than many of the others. Cortland also makes a reasonably priced and very small latch needle.

If you want to take on a project like this yesterday would a good time to start!
I decided to use 1mm Dyneema lines (approx 1/32”) and making whoopie-slings from this is much harder and more time consuming than I expected. Apparently the braid is a lot harder to open on these small lines.
The tools for this are very important!
My “loop turner” is too big for this line size.
I have a tool made from spring wire steel (0,4mm) and it is the best tool I have but it could be better. I have found stiff tools is better for something like this. I tried to use cobber wire from a cable (0,7mm) and the dimension feels better but it is too soft.
I am currently on hold until I find better materials for splicing tools. My fingertips are killing me
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