Single vs. Double layered

[Ridge_Dog]

Dutch puts out a great product at a low price. That is. ...if you have all the suspension items and bugnet. If you add all that together you are above 100.00 for the system. A Blackbird XLC is a great option for an all in one design. I have a double layer for friends to use with a pad. I made a double layer out of 1.0 oz calendered hyper D and it feels great. I liked how the material felt and needed 2 layers due to my weight.

[mrjaw14]

I went double layer for durability. I never use a pad. I found a lot of posts where single layer got stretch marks and runs and was afraid a single layer 1.1, which the fabric I wanted at the time only came in 1.1, would get damaged if I used a heal to push up in my hammock, or an elbow when I'm wiggling around. I got a hold of a 1.1 sample and it was pretty easy to make a run in it. I set a 1.7 inner layer against the 1.1 outer layer and I couldn't damage the fabric any more. I paid a lot for my hammock, I'll incure the weight penalty for it not to look stretched and worn. Looks good as new and I don't worry about being careful when I move around

[ClayTurner]

I use a double layer, with an underquilt. I like to have the option of adding a pad in the wintertime when hanging at lower temps.

[Ladylysis]

I'm a bigger gal (240, 5'5"). I tried an ENO Double (plenty of room on the weight limits) and hated several things: too much stretch, could not get a good lie, the skeeters bit me right through the material and my capris, and I was afraid that I'd step on the separate bug sack on exiting for middle-of-the-night calls of nature.

ENO got returned; research led me to want a structural ridgeline to help me with my hang, double layer for skeeter protection and feel of support, and integrated bug net. Went with the Blackbird and realized I didn't really spend that much more than for the ENO and its separate components.

This setup made me happy on my first trial hang - and +1 to Shug's remark about the bugnet being pulled away from my face. BIG bonus. Even on a night whose low temp was 70 degrees, I needed an underquilt even with full length (thought lightweight) PJ's and the double layer hammock. The little Travelon 3 battery-operated fan helped to move air early in the evening when things were still muggy (the bug net *does* trap heat and limit air movement).

re: Permethrin - I have extremely sensitive skin that doesn't like a lot of chemicals, so I'm reluctant to try it.

[Kamper Kurt]

I just made two hammocks. The first is a DL made from 1.0 HyperD. The second is a SL made from 1.9 NylonD. I do find the HyperD material to be nicer, softer, and more comfortable. I am not sure if it is because it is thinner or not, but I know that it tends to be sold as a thinner option. Might be another reason to go with a DL.

[NHWhites]

How much stretch is too much? Newbie here, fyi

[joe_guilbeau]

My thinking is that you should take into account your sleeping habits. Side sleeper, back, fetal, stomach or a combination of all of the above, in one night can impact your positioning on a pad inserted between the layers of a double hammock.

To my mind, using a mosquito repellent that does not degrade fabric is a viable option.

Picaridin

http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/Picaridintech.html

[beenaround]

Double layer here. Hate pads, I can never seem to get them to stay in one place. I was out this weekend and the second layer was actually enough for me. No pad, and no UQ needed. No bites either - and the little guys were out in full force.

[CollieMan]

I put a lot of research in this when I was buying my WBBB XLC my conclusions were:

Double Layer:
Pros:
Pad won't move as much
Still works fine with UQ
Can comfortably support more weight

Cons:
Weighs More
Unnecessary weight if you buy an UQ

Single Layer:
Pros:
Weighs Less
Still works with pad
Won't regret getting single layer once you upgrade to UQ

Con:
Supports less weight comfortably

People claim bugs like mosquitos can get through single layer. I don't see it as a problem wearing clothes, being in a sleeping bag, or having an UQ.

[irondog]

...Is a Dutch hammock really THAT much better than a Roo or GT double? I'm not trying to belittle his craftsmanship but what makes a "good" hammock so much better. I don't know. A hammock is such a primitive design it seems strange to me that there's such a huge difference between them.
Cheers.

Is you out yo mind?! No. You ain't. You just seen & heard so much full-color, stereophonic hyperbole over distinctions without differences, your mind's jaded and your heart's cynical. That's natural and easily understood. That, plus you underestimate what's really going on, in a hammock. But, really, one might say just the same about women. Or, about men. Or even rifles. Sure, superficially, there might seem to be the same underlying "primitive design" to them all; and that there can be differences amongst and between them may seem at first "strange" to you. However, upon more intimate acquaintance with a variety of sample specimens, the differences become rapidly and acutely apparent; and that which makes a good one great will be known by you, in due course. But, as they say: "If ya hafta ask, ya won't understand.", and all the rest is merely salesmanship. So, get out there and test-lay as many as you need to. Eventually, you'll come to know, and you'll settle down into a type, and then narrow that down to a specimen. Only then can your real troubles truly begin. Life's a journey, not a hammock. Whatever that means.