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    R-Value/Temperature Rating Comparison

    I was struggling to compare pads, what with R-values and temperature ratings.
    Luckily the Exped site puts both on the specs of their pads, so I made a chart.
    Thought I would put it up here just in case anyone else might find it useful.

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    Thank you. Was just looking into this today!

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    Just keep in mind that R-value is for when the pad is used on the ground. To my knowledge, those ratings don't apply when you're suspended in the air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr View Post
    Just keep in mind that R-value is for when the pad is used on the ground. To my knowledge, those ratings don't apply when you're suspended in the air.
    Or in a shelter, I've slept comfortable in a tent at 15* on a 3.5 R pad wearing only boxers...froze my butt off in a shelter at about 25* with the same gear and a down jacket on...got cold from the bottom.

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    Thanks for this.....good to have on record. Got a couple pads for my Amok and now I know I can get on down there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvrSurfr View Post
    Just keep in mind that R-value is for when the pad is used on the ground. To my knowledge, those ratings don't apply when you're suspended in the air.
    R-value is r-value. Suspended or on the ground. But I agree that the temperature ratings for a pad on the ground aren't valid for hammock use.

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    I agree. R value is a measure of a materials ability to restrict heat flow. On the ground, you fight conduction. In the hammock or on a raised shelter platform with air gaps you fight conduction and convection heat loss.

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    ... and maybe more than a smidgen of radiative.

    All this raises an interesting question when it comes to temperature rating of a pad because it seems that the manufacturers are taking into account air temp and not ground temp, but I could be making a gross assumption. Regardless, I suspect the average reader of that chart is thinking air temp.

    Ask a ground sleeper about sleeping on frozen ground with air temp in the 50s.

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    Some data I gleaned from Dave Womble (and/or Ed Speer) many years back specifically for in a hammock. My tests showed them to be right on. BUT, everyone is different! And not all Pads have them same R Value per inch.

    Pad Thickness R-value Temperature
    (in.) (deg. F)
    0 0.00 70
    1/8 0.54 63
    1/4 1.09 57
    3/8 1.63 50
    1/2 2.17 43
    5/8 2.71 37
    3/4 3.26 30
    7/8 3.80 23
    1 4.34 17
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    That's just it. Temperature rating for whom?

    And r-value per inch variability has probably mushroomed with all of the pad options these days.

    Still, something that one can use as a starting point for reference could be useful...

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