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    Cheap All-in-One Hookless Whoopie Setup

    People post from time to time about cheap suspensions so I'd thought I'd share this. This is not really new, just rearranged some old stuff differently. Borrowed from the hardware free detachable hammock system by grizz and it's essentially a copy of Dutch's whoopie hook suspension which is pretty popular around here.

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    Rather than using hooks there is an eye splice which ends in a diamond knot to make the connection to the continuous loops. The continuous loops have a slide-able whipping knot to securely cinch around the knot. Most people going for cheap suspensions are using all webbing. And almost everyone has thinner accessory cord. If you've got that you could pull off this with a single order of 25ft of amsteel from dutch for about $5.25. Gram weenies might also find this interesting as you could make a diamond knot stopper and whipped CL under a couple grams.

    I don't plan on using this, I recently threw it on my wife's old hammock and whoopie slings. If there is a big demand I could throw together a video in a couple weeks maybe, but like I said, this is old hat for the most part. So here are links to everything you'd need to know:

    Dutches whoopie hook suspension demo
    How to make whoopie slings
    Spliced eye - Start with about 10 inches of amsteel, connect it around the whoopie sling so you have two equal length tails and make sure it freely slides along the whoopie. You dont want it tight. Don't do the bury shown in the instructions, instead youre going to tie a diamond knot in them.
    How to tie a diamond Knot
    Continuous loops - I'd make them smaller
    Slidable whipping knot - about 3:45 mark although viewing the whole video will probably be helpful, especially more details on the diamond knot stoppers.

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    +1 on the diamond knot and clinch-slider.
    Genius in simplicity!

    When I was thinking about "hardware-less" options, I had considered trying a Monkey Fist on a bight to make a "continuous loop", then snugging a whoopie over/behind the MF. The tree end would be a dupe with a much longer c-loop. I didn't have any extra Amsteel, and certainly not enough to make both loops, the MFs, AND a double ended Whoopie sling.
    Seemed a waste of X!-pensive Amsteel. Yours is a much more doable solution.
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    Great idea! I'm about to make a whoopie sling suspension for my Hennessy hammock and I like the idea of being able to remove it. Will defiantly give this a try!

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    Really nice. May try that on my "tag-a-long friend" setup.
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    I'm liking it.
    Less is more.
    Better living through knotcraft.
    Sorry Dutchster
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    Very nice! I currently have my whoopie slings lark-headed (sp?) to my continuous loops, but I can't easily remove the whoopie slings from the continuous loops. This could solve that problem. Thanks!

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    Senior Member mophead's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SloGo View Post
    Really nice. May try that on my "tag-a-long friend" setup.
    It works really nicely for that. Unless you happen to like teaching the marlin spike hitch multiple times per trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyAdams View Post
    I'm liking it.
    Less is more.
    Better living through knotcraft.
    Sorry Dutchster
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    Thanks for the idea. The suspension primers and these vids are several years old and people are still coming through them for ideas, so great job. Got to hand it to you for thinking about cordage while everyone else was occupied with hardware.

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    You are barking up the wrong tree. A whoopie hook weighs nothing, probably less than a soft shackle. But the hammock on the other hand weighs ounces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    You are barking up the wrong tree. A whoopie hook weighs nothing, probably less that an soft shackle. But the hammock on the other hand weighs ounces.

    hahahahahahha i lost it. that was amazing!

    to be fair the shackles are a fraction of the price, im sure both have their trade off's as i bet the hooks are easier to use

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    Da boy has mad balancing skills!

    But the broadly the point about cord tricks versus fiendishly clever titanium geehaws not being where the bottlenecks (weight, time, whatever...) is spot on. We play with cord, or FCTGs for the fun of it, full stop.
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