Which is warmer? Hammock sock or overquilt?

[oldpappy]

One thing I think worth mentioning as a plus for using an overquilt is the ability to regulate heat as the night cools down. As every outside sleeper knows, the nights low temp is usually in the early morning. If you go to bed fully insulated for the expected low you are usually too hot (sweat/damp) and sometimes wake up chilled in the weee hours.
I use 2 TQs in the cold weather (actually a mummy bag and a throw blanket) - the throw blanket is off to the side when I go to sleep and I pull it over me when the temps drop (without even waking up most times).
So this would be a plus for the use of an 'overquilt'.
As OutandBack said, a sock is great weather protection,but keep your head/breath outside to keep condensation in check. I use the sock to allow for smaller tarp and add the 'overquilt' as extra insulation.

[Theguywitheyebrows]

One thing I think worth mentioning as a plus for using an overquilt is the ability to regulate heat as the night cools down. As every outside sleeper knows, the nights low temp is usually in the early morning. If you go to bed fully insulated for the expected low you are usually too hot (sweat/damp) and sometimes wake up chilled in the weee hours.

the throw blanket is off to the side when I go to sleep and I pull it over me when the temps drop (without even waking up most times).
As OutandBack said, a sock is great weather protection,but keep your head/breath outside to keep condensation in check. I use the sock to allow for smaller tarp and add the 'overquilt' as extra insulation.

+1 for each of those points. i use a wool blanket in the same fashion over the TQ for when the early morning temps bite through. i feel like a sock creates an issue, but how much vent exactly does it need? is it based on humidity v temperature? i'm workin ideas around in my head for a sock build, but i don't wanna invest and end up with soggy gear.

[OutandBack]

+1 for each of those points. i use a wool blanket in the same fashion over the TQ for when the early morning temps bite through. i feel like a sock creates an issue, but how much vent exactly does it need? is it based on humidity v temperature? i'm workin ideas around in my head for a sock build, but i don't wanna invest and end up with soggy gear.

I know it sounds complicated at first but really its not with a little practice. The biggest generator of humid air is your breath so thats pretty much a constant then you have the outside air temp.
The colder it is outside the more your breath will freeze to anything it touches be it your low hung tarp, a bug net, winter hammock cover or your sock. The relative humidity for your specific area is a very minor factor.

Finding a way to trap your breath like the shug bib, or Shemagh* or having your sock/winter hammock cover open enough to vent your breath is the trick.
It will take some practice in different temps before you become confident in your system.

Remember hot air rises so have your vent at the highest point in your sock and as close to the source of the humid air as you can.

*How to tie a shemagh:
https://youtu.be/tfp_GnY8b0E

[Theguywitheyebrows]

so then there isn't any need for me to attempt (as i always do) to build a better mousetrap than what dutch offers as a sock? good. less fabric i ruin with failed attempts lol.

[OutandBack]

so then there isn't any need for me to attempt (as i always do) to build a better mousetrap than what dutch offers as a sock? good. less fabric i ruin with failed attempts lol.

Wow is that what you got from my post? Man I need more coffee to wake my brain up. That wasn't my message at all.
We are in desperate need for newer and better designed winter socks.
Except for warbonnet just about everyone copied the justjeff DIY sock design from his tothewoods website. Hit the link and scroll down for picts.

http://www.tothewoods.net/HomemadeGearHammockSock.html

At a 2011 Colorado winter group hang JJ told me himself that design was a condensation making machine and he scrapped the design and started working on another.
Which is now the warbonnet sock.




JJ (maroon coat) and Brandon from Warbonnet.

[Theguywitheyebrows]

i hadn't actually come up with any new ideas myself, i thought maybe i had, but i hadn't. as far as i can tell from everything i have scoured the interwebz on the topic, anything that would vent through the fabric itself well enough wouldn't be windproof enough to be of any real use as a sock. i can't think of anything new and awesome . im still tryin though.