So I got a vertex to try out but I probably won't be able to keep it . My last hope is that she falls in love with it at the Chili hang and let's me keep it. If that fails I'll be selling it for $675 for the hammock, tarp, and two z-liners. New this would $1000 plus shipping. So if you want it, start saving. It's coming to the for sale sectionin mid October.