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    Senior Member CajunHiker's Avatar
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    I'd want to be different, and have one of each on a single tarp.
    To Boldly Hang Where No One Has Hung Before...

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    Overlap on one end (for entry/exit) and vestibule on the other (for storage)...best of both worlds. Small stuff sack that attaches to suspension for keeping beaks handy, but out of the way when weather is nice. When the weather turns, it would be simple to deploy quickly.

    Happy Anniversary 2Q-ZQ. Hope you had a great day.!!!
    Ambulo tua ambulo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayS View Post
    Oh, HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to you and Zipper Queen !!!!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    Happy Anniversary 2Q-ZQ. Hope you had a great day.!!!
    I Third that!
    HAPPY ANNIVERSARY 2Q-ZQ !


    Quote Originally Posted by gargoyle View Post
    Overlap on one end (for entry/exit) and vestibule on the other (for storage)...best of both worlds. Small stuff sack that attaches to suspension for keeping beaks handy, but out of the way when weather is nice. When the weather turns, it would be simple to deploy quickly.
    I liked this idea.
    But if have to choose one, it would be vestibule.
    Moski, who no longer feels the Secret Ninja Ski emptiness..............
    B/C he got them now

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    Happy Anniverary! Look forward to seeing the new mods, now if I can just stop hanging indoors long enough to send in my HH for a zip mod. Really should have did it before I built the indoor stand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Questions View Post
    Today was our 29th wedding aniversary so guess what ZQ and I did ??? We went out for lunch with our girls and spent the afternoon working on the "Grizz Beak" removable beak concept. It was a great day for an outside project.

    As a result of our efforts, it occurred to us that there may an interest in two different models of the Grizz Beak.

    The first is a beak with overlapping doors that minimizes material (read: weighs less) in which the doors when overlapped stay within a single plane or overlap straight across from side to side of the tarp.

    The other model is a beak that has more material and will weigh a tad more but the door overlaps form a "V" providing a sizable vestibule. This model is very similar to what I have with my zippered doors.


    I would like to offer both models believing there would be interest in both. Those interested in removable protection but concerned with total weight of their tarp system..."the Beak Lite" model. Those who desire a little more storage space when hunkered down and maybe using a smaller tarp...the "Beak vestibule" model.

    So, give me some feedback. Which model would you choose?

    We will making the vestibule model prototype this week and getting some weights and pictures. Stay tuned.
    2Q
    I thnk both would be popular.
    "Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." Gen. George S. Patton

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    Glad to see this coming about! Good option to have!
    And HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!
    don`t leave the CREATOR out of the creation!

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    If snow camping I would go with the zipped in vestibule!
    They both look brilliant!!!!
    Happiest of Be-lated Anniversary to both of ye"......
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Questions View Post
    Today was our 29th wedding anniversary so guess what ZQ and I did ??? We went out for lunch with our girls and spent the afternoon working on the "Grizz Beak" removable beak concept. It was a great day for an outside project.
    2Q
    Wonderful ! ! !

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    Both ideas look good. I guess for me I'd just be looking for the ability to block wind blown rain from blowing into the ends so the straight overlapping doors might be better? The thing is, the Deluxe isn't a real wide tarp. I think if I wanted lots of extra room inside I'd just buy a bigger tarp like a WB Superfly or Speer Winter Tarp that have taller sides where I could get more headroom inside. To achieve that with a Deluxe I'd have to pitch the tarp ridge so high that the bottom of the tarp would be 3 feet off the ground and wouldn't block much of the elements out.

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    I definately am a prospect for the beak model. If it is windy/stormy enough to need to block off the end, I want the aerodynamic properties of the beak rather than the flat panel.
    At the risk of heresy (i.e. discussing ground-dwelling applications), a MacCat with fully zippered beaks on each end would make an unbelievably versatile shelter. One could enter/exit at the lee side or end whatever the wind was doing, raise one side (or the corner of one side) for a Baker-type tent, etc etc.
    GREAT idea imo.
    Timetable yet?

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