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    If air was a good insulator, then insulation wouldn't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallkniven View Post
    If air was a good insulator, then insulation wouldn't exist.
    Right? I agree

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    On fast and light trips without an underquilt, I like to hang my hammock a little higher to increase the air insulation between the ground and my hammock. Usually 20-25" or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fallkniven View Post
    If air was a good insulator, then insulation wouldn't exist.
    Thank you sir. I tried to have this conversation before and it was met with some logical explanations, and some not so logical.

    Edit: Cleaned this post up, choosing words wisely matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    On fast and light trips without an underquilt, I like to hang my hammock a little higher to increase the air insulation between the ground and my hammock. Usually 20-25" or so.
    As a cold sleeper, I tend to prefer 30". YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabmanhang View Post
    Thank you sir. I tried to have this conversation before and it was met with some logical explanations, some ignorance, and some nastiness. Bottom line is that if some form of "insulation" isn't present, then air will not insulate you.
    Actually, you just need structure to contain the air so it can remain in between the hot and cold points where heat transfers, like the plastic of a thermos. Down is simply the best structure.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dakotaross View Post
    Actually, you just need structure to contain the air so it can remain in between the hot and cold points where heat transfers, like the plastic of a thermos. Down is simply the best structure.
    a thermos uses a vacuum to insulate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabmanhang View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fallkniven View Post
    If air was a good insulator, then insulation wouldn't exist.
    Thank you sir. I tried to have this conversation before and it was met with some logical explanations, some ignorance, and some nastiness. Bottom line is that if some form of "insulation" isn't present, then air will not insulate you.
    I maintain that air is a good insulator as long as you can keep it from moving. Down holds the air in place very well. If you remove the air from down, it does not insulate well.

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    I'm surprised that in 12 pages no one has commented that since he's from Australia, he has "Down Under" under him all the time, thus no need for an UQ!

    Ba-dum-bum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyII View Post
    I'm surprised that in 12 pages no one has commented that since he's from Australia, he has "Down Under" under him all the time, thus no need for an UQ!
    Perfect!

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