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    Senior Member Ewker's Avatar
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    Winter Hammocking

    I read on WB that some guy had his basic winter setup for his hammock. He said it would hold him to about 15° to 20°. He also mentioned that the total weight was 6-7 lbs.

    That seems awful heavy to me. Was he over estimating his weight or adding way to much stuff to his hammock. Yeah I know hard to say w/out knowing his setup.

    I know my winter setup tent, 15° bag and pad weighs in at 4.75 lbs or 6.75 lbs if I use a -5° bag. It has been a while since I have used that though.

    Was his weight normal for winter?
    Last edited by Ewker; 10-18-2006 at 12:02.

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    Just another hanger attroll's Avatar
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    I don't know about anyone else, but I like to an a person that not sleep unless I am warm. If I was using my tent in 15° weather I would probably be carrying 30 lbs or more, but I am a sissy when it starts getting that cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attroll View Post
    I don't know about anyone else, but I like to an a person that not sleep unless I am warm. If I was using my tent in 15° weather I would probably be carrying 30 lbs or more, but I am a sissy when it starts getting that cold.
    Amen to that Brother!

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    Staying at 5 lbs for a 20F hammock shouldn't be too hard. Here's a 30 F setup for just over 4. Add a torso pad or another quilt for underneath and it would easily be a 20F setup.

    11 - Speer (w/o bugnet)
    29 - PeaPod
    16 - Top Blanket
    09 - JRB 8x8 Tarp
    02 - 2 stakes w/ cord
    67 oz total - 4 lbs 3 oz - 1900 g (30 F)

    Here are two homemade 0F setups:

    Risk's setup:
    23.4 - WarmHammock w/ 2" insulation, TravelPod, suspension
    11.0 - Homemade Tarp
    24.5 - Homemade Quilt
    04.0 - Stakes/line*
    63 oz total - 3 lbs 11 oz - 1786 g

    Gardenville's Setup:
    16.9 - Silk Speer w/ Bugnet
    12.8 - Custom MacCat Tarp
    01.8 - Stakes/line
    23.0 - Homemade Down Air Mattress
    23.0 - Homemade Down Top Quilt
    77.5 oz total - 4 lbs 13 oz - 2197 g

    Lots more comparisons here:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewker View Post
    I read on WB that some guy had his basic winter setup for his hammock. He said it would hold him to about 15° to 20°. He also mentioned that the total weight was 6-7 lbs.

    That seems awful heavy to me. Was he over estimating his weight or adding way to much stuff to his hammock. Yeah I know hard to say w/out knowing his setup.

    I know my winter setup tent, 15° bag and pad weighs in at 4.75 lbs or 6.75 lbs if I use a -5° bag. It has been a while since I have used that though.

    Was his weight normal for winter?
    I think that 6-7 for winter is pretty good considering that in addition to off setting the winter bag and full winter pad, it also off sets the tent and ground cloth by including the hammock and tarp.

    Pan
    Ounces to Grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    I think that 6-7 for winter is pretty good considering that in addition to off setting the winter bag and full winter pad, it also off sets the tent and ground cloth by including the hammock and tarp.

    Pan
    Pan whats your set up for 15 to 25 weather?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hangman View Post
    Pan whats your set up for 15 to 25 weather?
    Hangman, et al,

    My set up for 15-25 degrees is

    HH ELR, 16 oz
    JRB Tarp w/ lines and ti ul pegs, 11 oz
    JRB Nest w SS, 21 oz
    JRB No Sniveller, 20 oz
    JRB Old Rag Mtn, 24 oz
    ( Removable back pad of pack
    11x20 inches)
    JRB compression sacks 2, 2 oz

    Total 78 oz 4.88 lbs

    Note , if I went out expecting 15-25, I'd be prepared to go 10 more below that.

    Add JRB Weather Shield Top and Bottom at 9.4 oz each for a total for single digits as 97 oz or 6 pounds.

    Camp clothes to sleep in; include, fleece lj & top, wool socks, fleece balaclava, JRB Down hood and JRB Down sleeves (worn as foot covers), and possum down gloves... All of these items are in the winter pack for camp use anyway.

    Pan
    Ounces to Grams.

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    Pan, I notice you carry a lot of clothes to sleep in. Is this normal with winter hammocking? I know it doesn't apply to winter tenting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewker View Post
    Pan, I notice you carry a lot of clothes to sleep in. Is this normal with winter hammocking? I know it doesn't apply to winter tenting.
    Ewker,

    I don't necessarily sleep in all the clothes items cited... the ljs and top are normal (they hold the first thermoclime)...hats are normal for quilt users.... all the other is "available"...

    BTW, many tenters also sleep in ljs and wear caps.... their set up, ground cloth, tent, winter pads and 10 degree bags usually come to more weight...

    FWIW, most ULers will carry lighter bags and supplement with clothes since they have them anyway.

    Pan
    Ounces to Grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter_pan View Post
    Hangman, et al,

    My set up for 15-25 degrees is

    HH ELR, 16 oz
    JRB Tarp w/ lines and ti ul pegs, 11 oz
    JRB Nest w SS, 21 oz
    JRB No Sniveller, 20 oz
    JRB Old Rag Mtn, 24 oz
    ( Removable back pad of pack
    11x20 inches)
    JRB compression sacks 2, 2 oz

    Total 78 oz 4.88 lbs

    Note , if I went out expecting 15-25, I'd be prepared to go 10 more below that.

    Add JRB Weather Shield Top and Bottom at 9.4 oz each for a total for single digits as 97 oz or 6 pounds.

    Camp clothes to sleep in; include, fleece lj & top, wool socks, fleece balaclava, JRB Down hood and JRB Down sleeves (worn as foot covers), and possum down gloves... All of these items are in the winter pack for camp use anyway.

    Pan
    Pan, did you use the nest and ns as 2 under quilts in that set up? i'm trying to get comfortable to 20-25 range. i have a nest and 20 degree western bag. i also have a wm blue pad that 24 inches wide. i have not used that in hammock yet. i was wondering about moisture if i use that.andbody else please feel free to leave suggestion

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