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    Stool... foam sit pad on a rock. Sit pad is also backpack pad.

    Beer.... warm beer. Really?

    Pillow... stuff sack stuffed with, um, stuff.

    Saw... for what? Have fun making a fire with only a ferro rod. OK, you can cheat with PJCB (petroleum jelly cotton ball). But it's fun to find other stuff that works well, such as cattail fluff, birch bark, very dry beech leaves, etc.
    UL, because nobody ever asks "How can I make my pack heavier?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    Beer.... warm beer. Really?
    1000% really. Ask Michigandave how awesome this is, or any beer lover for that matter.

    Can't say I ever had it "warm" though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneClick View Post
    1000% really. Ask Michigandave how awesome this is, or any beer lover for that matter.

    Can't say I ever had it "warm" though.
    Cooled off in the stream, it was perfect and complimented the cherry pie.

    I've done the traditional first night beer for years and a little extra weight to bring me some joy is well worth it to me.

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    My base weight is around 9 pounds total but with all my luxury items (Helinox chair and table, trans. radio, blue tooth speaker, Sven saw, candle lanterns, AHE hammock chair and other things), my ending pack weight is around 20 pounds not including food and booze.

    Is this heavy? It is all relative. If your pack is too heavy, get in better shape. That is the key.

    If you want to go camping with the bare essentials, that is your choice. I choose to go and live large. And by exercising at least 4 days a week, I don't even feel the weight on my back.

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    I think it's just a "win" when your pack is light as possible. I carried 32lb last month due to a packraft, PFD and paddles. It carried well and I didn't notice it so much, but obviously my usual 23lb load was missed. Even if I could carry 50lbs, I wouldn't. I imagine it's not good for your back, feet, joints, cartilage, etc. no matter your physical condition. Just being cautious, preventative maintenance for later years

    I keep an eye on "runners" for a good example. Approaching that 40 year old area, a lot of friends are complaining about things. One has bad knees, another back, another foot and knee. And the similar mentality is "working to get back out there". That's a good positive attitude, but what got them there in the first place? You could argue genetics, bad technique, gear, etc. But I think Occam's razor applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cneill13 View Post
    My base weight is around 9 pounds total but with all my luxury items (Helinox chair and table, trans. radio, blue tooth speaker, Sven saw, candle lanterns, AHE hammock chair and other things), my ending pack weight is around 20 pounds not including food and booze.

    Is this heavy? It is all relative. If your pack is too heavy, get in better shape. That is the key.

    If you want to go camping with the bare essentials, that is your choice. I choose to go and live large. And by exercising at least 4 days a week, I don't even feel the weight on my back.
    No worries, carry what you will.

    I'm responding to the thread title and linked article which is intended for people interested in lightening their loads. This becomes more of a factor for backpacking trips where elevation is a concern.

    UL, because nobody ever asks "How can I make my pack heavier?"

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    i do similar.
    if haven't used something for 6 trips out it goes.
    somethings still stay that get used rarely but are absolutes when are needed, so they stay.
    but have ditched loads of stuff this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cneill13 View Post
    My base weight is around 9 pounds total but with all my luxury items (Helinox chair and table, trans. radio, blue tooth speaker, Sven saw, candle lanterns, AHE hammock chair and other things), my ending pack weight is around 20 pounds not including food and booze.

    Is this heavy? It is all relative. If your pack is too heavy, get in better shape. That is the key.

    If you want to go camping with the bare essentials, that is your choice. I choose to go and live large. And by exercising at least 4 days a week, I don't even feel the weight on my back.
    If it's not too much trouble,could you share your pack list with us?

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    I just got back from a 5 day, 4 night (we left in the afternoon on day 4) trip. I weighed my pack at 25.89lb.

    After consumables:
    1L water
    2 16-oz beers
    Food
    Fuel

    The base would be about 15.5lb. I can't crack that, but I'm not upset about it either. Dropping the saw and stool would have shaved a full pound. A new pack would drop another. But I'm stubborn there.

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    Great read. I usually unload my pack and evaluate everything i used or did not and decide if will take it again.
    "Bama"

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