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    Unfair testing with your kids, all that blue hair won't give an accurate temp. rating.

    Good luck, your a brave man, hope you have a "plan B", if they do get cold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animalcontrol View Post
    What am I missing?
    AnimalControl, you miss nothing on the technical side, other than two points.

    The Warm Thing needs only one side faced. That's the red fabric. The Wiggys Window Covering is faced and quilted already. The labor is small.

    The other thing is the unkown... Insultex. Will this minimal bit of insulation do the job? Who knows?

    Gargoyle, Plan B is to put pads under the Things. They have plenty of top insulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    AnimalControl, you miss nothing on the technical side, other than two points.

    The Warm Thing needs only one side faced. That's the red fabric. The Wiggys Window Covering is faced and quilted already. The labor is small.

    The other thing is the unkown... Insultex. Will this minimal bit of insulation do the job? Who knows?

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    fair enough...
    I understand the "shiny, new toy" curiosity thing.
    Thanks for the explanation
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    AnimalControl, you miss nothing on the technical side, other than two points.

    The Warm Thing needs only one side faced. That's the red fabric. The Wiggys Window Covering is faced and quilted already. The labor is small.

    The other thing is the unkown... Insultex. Will this minimal bit of insulation do the job? Who knows?

    Gargoyle, Plan B is to put pads under the Things. They have plenty of top insulation.

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    Ah, that brings back fond memories of my father performing medical experiments on me as a child. You just don't see that much any more.

    Should I bring and extra UQ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by animalcontrol View Post
    I understand the excitement about camping with your daughter!
    ...
    I understand the "shiny, new toy" curiosity thing.
    I don't understand...

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    [QUOTE= Please, make me understand (no sarcasm)



    Climashield XP 2.5 oz/yd ~ Temp 45*F ~ Cost…$9.95/yd ~ Total=$22 and weight 5 oz
    Climashield Combat 3.7 oz/yd ~ Temp 35*F ~ Cost…$10.95/yd ~ Total=$23 and weight 6.2 oz
    Climashield XP 5.0 oz/yd ~ Temp 25*F ~ Cost…$15.95/yd ~ Total=$27 and weight 7.5oz


    What am I missing? (again, no sarcasm)[/QUOTE]

    Actually, this could be an interesting exercise. Climashield is great stuff with some excellent qualities, but compared to Wiggy's insulation, durability isn't one of them. If Wiggy's window covering is made from the same stuff as his bags/poncho liners, this could be a good test of how an insulation that can stand up to abuse delivers in other areas. (Full disclosure: My knowledge of Wiggy's insulation is second hand, but every source I've ever seen or heard has agreed that although heavy and bulky compared to others, it is totally bomb proof.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggy's
    ...window covering has as its core Lamilite.
    Lamilite is the same stuff as in Wiggy's bags, etc.

    It's tough enough to be machine washed and machine dried:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggy's
    ...has the advantage of being easily washed. When it gets dirty and it obviously will you can simply place it in your washing machine and wash it as easily as my sleeping bags. Then put it in your dryer for drying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I don't understand...

    "The other thing is the unkown... Insultex. Will this minimal bit of insulation do the job? Who knows?" = "the "shiny, new toy" curiosity thing"

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    Actually, this could be an interesting exercise. Climashield is great stuff with some excellent qualities, but compared to Wiggy's insulation, durability isn't one of them. If Wiggy's window covering is made from the same stuff as his bags/poncho liners, this could be a good test of how an insulation that can stand up to abuse delivers in other areas. (Full disclosure: My knowledge of Wiggy's insulation is second hand, but every source I've ever seen or heard has agreed that although heavy and bulky compared to others, it is totally bomb proof.)
    Good point
    Like with most insulation, there is give and take. Climashield isn't anywhere near as durable as Wiggy's stuff. Of course, a 5 oz Climashield UQ is a heck of a lot lighter than this Warm Thing Quilt (2.2 lbs - most of which is the WWC, I think)
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    Quote Originally Posted by animalcontrol View Post
    I'm sorry Mac...I feel like I'm hacking on you but...
    Ok, that's finished, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    Ok, that's finished, right?

    Originally Posted by animalcontrol
    I'm sorry Mac...I feel like I'm hacking on you but...


    never was...
    tough conversation...I'm throughly confused all the time!
    oh well...
    Last edited by animalcontrol; 12-10-2009 at 07:44. Reason: again, clarification
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