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    Senior Member Bubba's Avatar
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    If you just want to go to a local store, you can just get some small climbing rated carabiners. The camp Nano 23 biners are one of the smallest climbing rated ones available.
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    I third (or fourth or whatever we're up to now) Dutch Clips. Use both the sew-on ones and open ones and never had a problem. Used to use 'biners (Petzl Spirits) but one area where Dutch clips help is when you want to hang from a smaller diameter tree. With a 'biner you need a tree of at least 14" or 15" before it "lies flat" against the bark. With smaller diameter trees the clips sit better.
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    +1 on Camp Nano 22's. I prefer a good carabiner because it has multiple uses and the Nanos are climbing rated. I have seen and heard of too many straps getting torn/pierced from Dutch Clips, most likely due to user error, but still not something I want to deal with on the middle of a weeklong hike
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    Looks like the general consensus is torn between clips and biners... I guess I could always try one of each on each end of the hammock to decide for myself! :P
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    why would Dutch clips be a better solution than just running the strap through the sewn loop on the other end?..

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    Utility and convenience. It's easier, and take's less time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondmouse View Post
    why would Dutch clips be a better solution than just running the strap through the sewn loop on the other end?..
    Doing it that way works perfectly fine, but it requires having to fully undo the straps from the cinch buckles so for quick ups and downs (my hammock time is pretty limited!) I am wanting something a bit quicker... not to mention if you have to reposition and run into a branch (or other obstacle) you can just unclip and move up vs. having to undo and redo everything with the buckles (again). My main (well, only) hanging point in my yard is a cedar along the old pasture fence line. LOTS of smaller diameter branches right where I want/need to go... since I am still fine tuning things with a new hammock it gets a bit frustrating at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondmouse View Post
    why would Dutch clips be a better solution than just running the strap through the sewn loop on the other end?..
    If you're short like me and invariably end up trying to hang between trees further apart than would be ideal, so you have to stand on the very tips of your toes and stretch high above your head to get your straps high enough to achieve the proper angle, it's Way, WAY, WAY EASIER to slip the Dutch Clip onto the other side of the strap than it is to thread the tail end of the strap through the loop on the other end. WAY EASIER.

    And, even when not having to practically shimmy up the tree to hang my straps, it is just so much easier and quicker and more convenient using the Dutch Clips. If you ever try them once, you'll be hooked.

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    sorry for my noobness but thanks everyone for the answers why a Dutch clip is better than using the sewn loop at the end.

    and now for the $64million question, why are they better than a plain old carabiner?..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secondmouse View Post
    sorry for my noobness but thanks everyone for the answers why a Dutch clip is better than using the sewn loop at the end.

    and now for the $64million question, why are they better than a plain old carabiner?..
    Because we all like cool Dutch gear and they are lighter then a carabiner

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