Another Wooki first impression

**2eez4life** · 08-19-2016, 12:18

Originally Posted by ringtail-THFKAfood

Whoopies were near maxed out. The only two trees were located too far apart. If I had been with another person with a hammock we would have had to camp outside the designated area.

I'm going to Glacier NP soon and I'm afraid that is what i'm going to have to do as well.
Gulp...
Would they hassle you if you had to camp outside designated area?

**ringtail-THFKAfood** · 08-19-2016, 13:12

Originally Posted by 2eez4life

I'm going to Glacier NP soon and I'm afraid that is what i'm going to have to do as well.
Gulp...
Would they hassle you if you had to camp outside designated area?

The designated area is undesignated. The actual wording is "as close as possible to the arrowhead sign marking the site." The NPS wants you at least 200' from water sources, but the Peregrine site was about 50' from the stream. Blowdown just about blocked the path to the privy. There must be reasonable trade-offs between protecting the resource and camper safety.

I try to do my cooking and puttering around camp in the area already impacted. Hanging & sleeping should not create a substantial impact. The hammock is just your bedroom. The impacted area is your kitchen, dining room and living room.

Yea, park rangers are LEO's and that is kind of what they do. But it is possible to leave the backcountry a better place than you found it.

**HammockCanoe** · 08-19-2016, 13:51

Originally Posted by ringtail-THFKAfood

The designated area is undesignated. The actual wording is "as close as possible to the arrowhead sign marking the site." The NPS wants you at least 200' from water sources, but the Peregrine site was about 50' from the stream. Blowdown just about blocked the path to the privy. There must be reasonable trade-offs between protecting the resource and camper safety.

I try to do my cooking and puttering around camp in the area already impacted. Hanging & sleeping should not create a substantial impact. The hammock is just your bedroom. The impacted area is your kitchen, dining room and living room.

Yea, park rangers are LEO's and that is kind of what they do. But it is possible to leave the backcountry a better place than you found it.

Guys, totally off topic, what about starting your own thread, please.

**2eez4life** · 08-22-2016, 21:18

Originally Posted by HammockCanoe

Guys, totally off topic, what about starting your own thread, please.

Nice save bra Nice save

**Atlas918** · 08-30-2016, 11:05

I picked up a Blackbird off of the FS forum earlier this week. Now I am even more excited about getting it, so I can talk my wife into letting me buy one of these quilts

**FY01CPO** · 10-02-2016, 09:42

Did you notice any cold spots under you? I tend to sleep on my side and do a little bit of tossing and turning. Considering having a decent top quilt to "wrap" around your exposed side/back, did you notice any cold spots? I am nervous that not wrapping up around me like an Incubator 20* might do will lead to a rough night. I really like the Wooki design and ease of use from what a lot of you have said so I am optimistic it works perfect.

**Snydman** · 10-02-2016, 10:11

Originally Posted by FY01CPO

Did you notice any cold spots under you? I tend to sleep on my side and do a little bit of tossing and turning. Considering having a decent top quilt to "wrap" around your exposed side/back, did you notice any cold spots? I am nervous that not wrapping up around me like an Incubator 20* might do will lead to a rough night. I really like the Wooki design and ease of use from what a lot of you have said so I am optimistic it works perfect.

That is my concern as well. Also it's been described that there's a loose areas and it only comes in contact with the part of your body that is in it. A little floppy around the edges. On my traditional under quilt the primary suspension keeps it nice and tight wrapped around me even when I put my hands between the under quilt and my Hammock there is warm even where the body parts aren't touching.

What happens to all this extra heat on the wookie? it's been describe like a mattress keeping you warm in the spots that you may contact what about the heat your body generates that my traditional under quilt helps keep trapped around me
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**HammockCanoe** · 10-02-2016, 10:21

Originally Posted by FY01CPO

Did you notice any cold spots under you? I tend to sleep on my side and do a little bit of tossing and turning. Considering having a decent top quilt to "wrap" around your exposed side/back, did you notice any cold spots? I am nervous that not wrapping up around me like an Incubator 20* might do will lead to a rough night. I really like the Wooki design and ease of use from what a lot of you have said so I am optimistic it works perfect.

I'm a 40% side sleeper. In my opinion, the Wooki is much better suited for a side sleeper than a normal quilt. The important thing is not having gaps between any part of your body, touching the hammock, and the quilt. The insulated part of the Wooki, because of the tension, is always touching the hammock when any part of your body applies pressure to it. Not always the case with a standard quilt suspended on shock cords, when you move drastically, gaps are created. This pumps cold air in and leads to cold spots.

I used the Wooki on two different trips (total of 2 weeks). The lowest temperature was 8 C (46 F), not very cold but enough to be able to feel cold spots. I didn't experience the slightest cold spot or discomfort and I move around quite a bit. My Wooki is a 20 degree and I use a 30 degree top quilt.

Not having those shock cords feel SO nice. I'm not using my HG any more.

**PharmGeek** · 10-02-2016, 10:28

Originally Posted by HammockCanoe

I'm a 40% side sleeper. In my opinion, the Wooki is much better suited for a side sleeper than a normal quilt. The important thing is not having gaps between any part of your body, touching the hammock, and the quilt. The insulated part of the Wooki, because of the tension, is always touching the hammock when any part of your body applies pressure to it. Not always the case with a standard quilt suspended on shock cords, when you move drastically, gaps are created. This pumps cold air in and leads to cold spots.

I used the Wooki on two different trips (total of 2 weeks). The lowest temperature was 8 C (46 F), not very cold but enough to be able to feel cold spots. I didn't experience the slightest cold spot or discomfort and I move around quite a bit. My Wooki is a 20 degree and I use a 30 degree top quilt.

Not having those shock cords feel SO nice. I'm not using my HG any more.

This is excellent feedback

I too will soon give honest feedback

I was curious s how in colder conditions shifting and moving would feel...

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**HammockCanoe** · 10-02-2016, 10:47

Originally Posted by Snydman

That is my concern as well. Also it's been described that there's a loose areas and it only comes in contact with the part of your body that is in it. A little floppy around the edges. On my traditional under quilt the primary suspension keeps it nice and tight wrapped around me even when I put my hands between the under quilt and my Hammock there is warm even where the body parts aren't touching.

What happens to all this extra heat on the wookie? it's been describe like a mattress keeping you warm in the spots that you may contact what about the heat your body generates that my traditional under quilt helps keep trapped around me.

Isn't what the TQ does, trapping heat around you?

My HG is 45 inch wide compared to 44 for the Wooki (no e). I feel that I have the same insulation around me with the Wooki. The difference is that it fits perfectly with no shock cords. If you haven't tried one, you might have concerns with what some call flapping. Not an issue at all.

Look at the Bonefire hammock with integrated quilt (sewn to the hammock). I don't think that any user complained about cold spots. The Wooki is exactly the same thing, but you don't have to send your hammock to have the quilt sewn to it.