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    Senior Member blackbishop351's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsshepard View Post
    For those of you using the Bishops bag, could you give us newb's some hints as to how to use it? Do you just "stuff" the hammock in the bag or try to fold or roll it first? Do you also put the tarp in there, or use a separate bag? I currently have two Claytor Expeditions that my son and I use and a new Speer IIIA on it's way for me this week. I like this idea and may pull the wife's sewing machine out and start some DIY projects. Any size recommendations to get me started? Thanks!!
    If you want to try the idea and get some easy sewing under your belt, just do what Jeff did - make a "standard" square-bottom stuff sack and melt a hole in the bottom for your suspension cord. My current version is quite a bit more complicated than that, but I am in the process of writing up directions for it.

    I never liked folding/rolling my shelter, even when I *gulp* slept on the ground. My reasoning was the same as for a sleeping bag or quilt - if you start folding a piece of material, you'll tend to do it the same way every time. After a while, the creases will develop weak spots in the material and wear the item out quicker. So the sack is designed to just stuff your hammock/quilt(s). Unhook one side of your suspension, stuff toward the other end, then unhook the other side. The whole thing stays off the ground completely and thus dry and safe.

    I haven't put my tarp in the same storage area as my hammock since the second time (give or take) I hung on the trail. Doing so just seems ridiculous to me - why would you want a (often) wet tarp in the same water-resistant storage as your hammock, which needs to stay dry? My tarp goes in snakeskins at the moment, but I'm working on a small BB sack for it, too. Not sure which I'll like better.

    My current sack design is round-bottomed rather than square. The bottom is about 10" diameter and the sack is about 16" long when stuffed. That's after sewing, of course.
    "Physics is the only true science. All else is stamp collecting." - J. J. Thompson

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    I haven't had my coffee yet so I'm having a hard time visualizing the BB sack. Anybody have pictures?

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    Im sure BB has some in his gallery. Im not at home right now so I dont have any. BD
    Just Jeff made me do it

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    Didn't even think about the gallery. Where the hell is my coffee!?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    I haven't had my coffee yet so I'm having a hard time visualizing the BB sack. Anybody have pictures?
    Read the second post of this thread again
    I think that when the lies are all told and forgot the truth will be there yet. It dont move about from place to place and it dont change from time to time. You cant corrupt it any more than you can salt salt. - Cormac McCarthy

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    Good to see it in action, thanks angrysparrow. So, basically the sack has a small hole on one end and the opening on the other; then you just stuff everything in the opening. Is that correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    Good to see it in action, thanks angrysparrow. So, basically the sack has a small hole on one end and the opening on the other; then you just stuff everything in the opening. Is that correct?
    That's correct.
    I think that when the lies are all told and forgot the truth will be there yet. It dont move about from place to place and it dont change from time to time. You cant corrupt it any more than you can salt salt. - Cormac McCarthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    Good to see it in action, thanks angrysparrow. So, basically the sack has a small hole on one end and the opening on the other; then you just stuff everything in the opening. Is that correct?
    Yup. The side with the small hole stays hung. Unhook the opening side and stuff everything inside. If its wet (and you use straps) you can remove the straps and store them elsewhere.

    His newer design models have a mesh pocket sewn to the small hole side to store the straps in and the overall design he made for me is larger so that my HH, Nest, and No Sniveller all fit neatly inside.

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    Great, now I have another project to add to my list. I'm going to have to quit work, it's getting in the way of learning to sew.

    Thanks for helping the slow figure things out.

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    For those of us without sewing machines or friends with sewing machines or just friends period, would it make sense to purchase an appropriately sized stuff sack from your local vendor and punch a hole in the bottom?

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