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    Underquilt: Built-in or Grosgrain channels?

    Right now I'm planning out my UQ built and I'm gravitating toward a similar design as this one by Gidggetzz: http://imgur.com/a/nwn64. In this build, the outer fabric is used to make the channels (doubled over twice), rather than sewing on grosgrain channels. This seems like an efficient design (fewer parts), but I wonder about the durability of it (I'm leaning toward 1.0oz HyperD for my outer shell).

    Any have any experience with built-in vs grosgrain channels?

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    I like using the same material as the quilt. The grosgrain does not scrunch up as well as ripstop/HyperD and adds weight. Durability is not an issue. Go with the fold over.

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    I definitely prefer no grosgrain. Yes, it would be more durable if you abused your equipment, but don't advise your equipment.
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    Folded fabric scrunches perfectly whereas grosgrain doesn't very well. Grosgrain is bulkier when packing away, and it's heavier.

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    I made 2 UQ's with grosgrain. My next UQ will be without grosgrain to remove the xtra and bulkier sides.
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    My vote is for doubling over the ripstop. It works great, with no extra weight. I followed the same tutorial by GidgetGirl, super helpful.
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    I've built quilts with cord channels both ways now, so I'll chime in humbly...

    Both cord channel materials (grosgrain and fabric) have their own challenges when it comes to sewing them together with the rest of your quilt materials.

    There is a lot of variability in quality of grosgrain ribbon out there, and some scrunched better than others. All of it is very durable.

    That said, any quilt shell fabric will almost certainly scrunch better than grosgrain.

    If I were using an ultralight shell fabric for my quilt, I would either double up the channel fabric, or simply switch to a suitable ripstop fabric of a heavier weight and only double it over at the points where the cord exits the channel (the areas of highest stress). For example, when I made one quilt using Multicam 1.55 oz Epsilon as the outer shell, I simply switched to a matching Multicam 1.9 oz ripstop for the cord channel.

    I'm no gram-shaver, and IMHO the amount of weight (or bulk, compared to the volume of the insulation) that you could possibly save on your quilt cord channels is really pretty negligible, so I just look for any solution that will function well, look nice, and last.
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    When I turned my Snugpak Jungle Blanket into an UQ, I just folded it so the short sides touched and sewed the end channels directly into the blanket about an inch wide for the shock cord to sinch the ends up. I used the long folded side as a channel itself by just coming in an inch from the fold and running a stitch down the length. The other long side I did the same as the short ends, came in about 1/4 ,ran a stitch down the length then measured in an inch from there and ran the other stitch down the length to make the channel. I put the shock cord loop in before I completed the long channels so it was easier, and tacked the short end cord into the quilt then made the outside stitch. I have pics of it in my insulation album under my cheapie Equip hammock. It turned out really nice doing it that way as you can see in pics..... No gaps on the ends and hugs the bottom perfectly. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!
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    I leave exta material on both the inner and outer shell and then just do a rolled hem. It works good for me and cinches up good at the ends. I also make draft collars and insert them into the rolled hems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoutmaster1056 View Post
    I leave exta material on both the inner and outer shell and then just do a rolled hem. It works good for me and cinches up good at the ends. I also make draft collars and insert them into the rolled hems.

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    That is actually quite innovative, yet elegant in its simplicity. Well done.

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    I've always used grosgrain, but I'm going to do this on my next quilt.
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