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    Brian Miller's Avatar
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    "Winter" Tarp for Clark?

    I recently returned from a 4-day fall subalpine lakes fishing trip accompanied by two-ground dwellers in small two-man tents. There were over 14 lakes on a 4800' plateau. We camped at the uppermost lake in a stand of trees surrounded by meadows. Days 1 and 2 were great.
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    Day 3 was miserable. We were in the clouds, temps in the high 30s to mid 40s, gusty-variable winds, with horizontal rain and sleet. My friend described it to his wife as "starting at about 2:30 AM it was raining all but about three 45 minute periods, and when it wasn't raining, the wind was blowing the rain out of the trees so it looked like it was raining."
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    My tarp pitch kept had kept things dry and I had slept comfortably and toasty warm with the weathershield open about 6". After breakfast I fished awhile but it was difficult.

    We all huddled awhile under the lee side of my Vertex tarp in A-frame mode with the windward side fairly low, drank Tea, cocoa, played harmonica and whistle. I was trying to stay warm sitting in my camp chair wearing a 250 weight Merino wool base layer, Columbia Titanium convertible trousers, a PrimaLoft* Gold puffy jacket, Merino Buff, fleece cap, and a full Gore Tex hardshell, but got pretty chilled. I crawled into the hammock after they finally retreated to their tents but quickly got restless and bored holed up in the hammock. I've since invested in a Mountain Hardware Ghost Whisperer 800 fill waterproof down jacket and a better pair of Gore Tex Pro full zip rain pants with suspenders; both at an additional 25% off from the current sale prices plus free shipping .

    This is probably overkill but have any of you NX-TX users contemplated shelling out for a tarp with doors; SuperFly, Winter Dream, or cuben Winter Palace ($$$) to help block gusty variable winds when you're not holed up under the weathershield? They all appear to be hex tarps with a long enough ridgeline, but any idea how the width and side length compares with the Vertex?
    Brian
    (formerly Oblique Angler)

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    Senior Member SoaknWet's Avatar
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    I went with the Superfly for my nx270 and with the top poles feel its perfect for anything nature can throw at you.

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    Senior Member AdventureMyk's Avatar
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    Awesome pics and sorry to hear nature threw you a curve. The vertex tarp is good but I'm leaning toward the Superfly. I wonder if it's big enough for the Vertex hammock? It should gobble up the NX/TX just fine.
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    Warbonnets doors fit perfectly on my vertex tarp. The cloudburst tarp doors, btw. Take them with if you think you'll need them, fair weather, keep them at home.

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    Brian Miller's Avatar
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    I asked UGQ about their Winter Dream tarp for a Clark NX-TX. Also got a little news about underquilts.

    Hey Brian,
    No problem sharing the email on HF, may help out some other folks. The tarp in the picture is Charcoal Grey which has high light transmission.
    We now own a NX-250 so you should be seeing a dedicated UQ in the next few months.


    First we own a Clark NX250 so we are familiar with the hammocks and have used our tarps with this hammock. On our NX250 the poles are not right at the ends but in roughly 20" or so placing the distance between the pole at say 68-72" or so if I recall correctly. From the pole sleeves to the gathered end the hammock tapers quickly. We have diagrams on our website showing all measurement of the tarps but even the smallest WD11 has more coverage than the Vertex Tarp.
    The following are hot links to larger images, it's a little hard to determine overalls with both doors closed, one door closed etc as pitch angles will affect these measurements. We typically pitch the tarp with the doors snapped providing the correct pitch to ensure the door opening is positioned directly under the ends of the tarp ridge. This provides the maximum footprint for the tarp when doors are closed.

    If we were in the market for a WD tarp for our Clark NX-250 this is what we'd be looking at.
    Winter Dream 12 w/ 4 Panel Pulls (This would allow for external poles to be added at a later date)
    or
    Winter Dream 12 w/ End Poles (This would be based on our experience that if a tarp has end poles you'll never use the panel pulls.)
    A WD11 may provide the needed coverage but it would be close, a WD13 will certainly provide the needed coverage but really is more than you need for a typical Clark Hammock.
    Hopefully we shed a little light on your questions for you.
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    Paul & Missy
    Last edited by Brian Miller; 11-01-2016 at 00:29.
    Brian
    (formerly Oblique Angler)

    Job 41:1, 2

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    I have a WB SF and I like it a heck of alot better then the Vortex that came with me Clark..

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    Brian Miller's Avatar
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    I think I am getting ready to pull trigger on that 12' Winter Dream in the low stretch and light weight membrane silpoly(ester), with the dual end-pole mod and 4 panel pulls as a retirement gift to myself. The poles weigh 16 ounces and Clarks are already beasts so I would like the option of using the pullouts with a trekking pole on each side to save weight. I also emailed UGQ asking if they could substitute Fibraplex carbon fiber poles that weigh about 8 ounces and appear to cost only around $20 more than the standard Easton .340 aluminum poles.

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    Brian
    (formerly Oblique Angler)

    Job 41:1, 2

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    Member Wilder's Avatar
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    My nx250 in a superfly tarp from warbonnet outdoors.

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    I got an HG Winter Palace and it's been great. Kept me dry and created a huge area for everyone to hangout in during bad weather.

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    I'm looking at ordering a UGQ WD13 with dual end poles. It should be nice & roomy inside once set up. Just need to hit up the neighborhood kids some more for their lunch money. (JK!)
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