Hammock Tent Vendor 90 Degree Hammock

**biggy** · 12-28-2016, 11:43

Originally Posted by Redearmedia

Dutch cinch bugs here

DSC03512.jpg by Rickard Andersson, on Flickr

It's a great suspension. I like being able to hang both straps and then the hammock so the hammock never touches the ground.

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**Redearmedia** · 12-28-2016, 12:36

it's just the way I do ..... hammock go in and out of a drysack, will never touch the ground.

**OlTrailDog** · 12-28-2016, 18:23

I have used several configurations after deciding that the OEM small rings would definitely be problematic for me since my hands are my Achilles heel in cold and wet weather. The small rings are girth hitched so it is easy to replace them with larger rap rings, aka descender. I have also used a single descender ring and a marlin spike, Metolius mini-carabiners into daisy chain style tree straps (Massdrop purchase); a pseudo marlin spike with strap and cinch assembly from Yukon Outfitters (an inexpensive Massdrop purchase), and currently, the Massdrop daisy chain tree straps clipped into the WBRR pentagrams on my indoor hanger (quick and easy for swapping between test hammocks). I think my favorite camping setup is the WBRR pentagrams on the OEM continuous loop used with a 10' webbing that loops around the tree and hooks via a Metolius mini-biner. Be forewarned that the WBRR can become tight if you reef the webbing too tightly and be difficult to undo. I usually finish the WBRR with a bight through the pentagrams instead of passing the webbing entirely through. That way I can pull it free or undone when disassembling.

**happywizz** · 12-30-2016, 03:10

Answering:
Anyone has tried to take the pad into the hammocktent 90° hammock? Does it work?
Surely not as great as in the pad pocket, yet I wonder if compared to a gathered end it's more of a viable option

I use it with the pad on top of the Delta UL. Although I have both Gamma UL and the Delta UL I prefer the latter because its lighter and I dont have a problem to get to stay the pad in place. As I use a closed cell pad it has enough resistance to not slip away. I also to find it warmer because with the Gamma UL there seems always to be a air gap between me and the (inflatable) pad. You can solve this for example by using you're jacket. But its more hassle and doesnt always work. In colder periods I put an inflatable pad on top of the cc pad. It doesn't slip, is warm and very comfortable. So yes it does work (with the right pad) and I prefer it.

Also extremely light as my summer configuration (to -4 C) for pad and hammock is less then 1/2 kg. (pad about 150 gr and hammock about 300 gr). And in case I have to I can sleep on the ground.

**hang-loose** · 12-30-2016, 03:48

Originally Posted by happywizz

Answering:
Anyone has tried to take the pad into the hammocktent 90° hammock? Does it work?
Surely not as great as in the pad pocket, yet I wonder if compared to a gathered end it's more of a viable option

I use it with the pad on top of the Delta UL. Although I have both Gamma UL and the Delta UL I prefer the latter because its lighter and I dont have a problem to get to stay the pad in place. As I use a closed cell pad it has enough resistance to not slip away. I also to find it warmer because with the Gamma UL there seems always to be a air gap between me and the (inflatable) pad. You can solve this for example by using you're jacket. But its more hassle and doesnt always work. In colder periods I put an inflatable pad on top of the cc pad. It doesn't slip, is warm and very comfortable. So yes it does work (with the right pad) and I prefer it.

Also extremely light as my summer configuration (to -4 C) for pad and hammock is less then 1/2 kg. (pad about 150 gr and hammock about 300 gr). And in case I have to I can sleep on the ground.

Awesome to hear, that's what I thought since I've made equally good experiences with a regular hammock and a closed cell mat.
mine just arrived, will test it asap.

But since you have both to compare - how are they different with regard to use as a bug shelter on ground?

Thx

**happywizz** · 12-30-2016, 05:12

No difference on the ground. Only difference is that you will miss the elastic tie outs on the corners. But thats no problem. I uploaded two foto's one with cc only and one with a extra alumium layer on top. The latter is nice as you glide easier in and out of the hammock and provides some extra insulation. With this configuration I can go to about -4 C (tested)

**Redearmedia** · 12-30-2016, 10:24

Out today

2016-12-30_04-17-51 by Rickard Andersson, on Flickr

2016-12-30_04-17-36 by Rickard Andersson, on Flickr
The massive exped synmat 9 lw fits like a glove.
We have a new bed at home....this is more comfortable

2016-12-30_04-17-19 by Rickard Andersson, on Flickr

**Penfold** · 01-06-2017, 17:09

Originally Posted by Jimswms

Has anyone swapped out the suspension on one of these? I haven't had the pleasure of taking it down on a freezing morning, but I can tell how painful it would be!

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I did. Swapped in Dutch spiders. No problem switching suspension on one. Took me about 2 minutes. Ran a a continuous loop on either side and then straps with Dutchware spiders on them.

**LuvmyBonnet** · 01-06-2017, 17:19

What type of tarp do you use with that critter?

**sandworm40** · 01-06-2017, 17:28

Originally Posted by Jimswms

Has anyone swapped out the suspension on one of these? I haven't had the pleasure of taking it down on a freezing morning, but I can tell how painful it would be!

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My Gamma UL came with the small continuous loop and the two descender rings. I did not like the minor difficulty of releasing the tension on the lines. I kept the small continuous loop, and am using the 2" kevlar tree straps from Dutchware with two 10' lengths of half-inch wide mule tape webbing looped on one end from AntiGravityGear. I attach the mule tape to the continuous loops with a Becket hitch.