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    Lightbulb Seam Sealing Failure Report

    Well it is early Christmas morning as I write this and I am sadly disappointed in my most recent hanging experience. I received a BBDD Winter Tarp, modified for my Clark NX-200, for an early Christmas present from the signifigant other after I went to the Sipsey Hang over Halloween. I sealed the ridgeline seam back in mid-November and have not had a chance to test it out until tonight. I figured it would be a wonderful time to test it out because of the weather that was expected here in East Alabama. That weather is a typical southern winter storm consisting of massive amounts of rain, strong gusting winds and upper 40*F temps. I got the hammock and tarp set up during the day and did a test nap to see how I liked the tarp and hammock together............All I can say Scott Littlefield does a wonderful job with this tarp design and I am very pleased with my purchase.

    Please, don't take this report as a negative feedback on Scott or any of his products.........what happened here is all of my fault and shows that my learning curve is still on the upswing.

    I used a seam sealing agent, water based seam sealer, that I got at the local sporting goods store. It had worked on the other tarps that I had sealed so I thought it would work here........boy was I wrong! After taking care of wrapping some presents and having family time I decided to retire for the night and headed for the hammock. As I left the house I walked into a virtual deluge of rain water thinking what a great sleep I would be getting. I looked forward to the raindrops on the tarp, gentle sway of the hammock in the breeze and a book to read......how better to spend Christmas Eve.

    I got under the tarp and opened the weather shield on my hammock, then I noticed that there were some drops of water in the hammock. I thought this was from the rain jacket I was wearing and left it at that. Once I got in and situated I noticed that I had a wet spot on my backside, passed it off as the water from the jacket. After two pages of the book I noticed the wet spot was spreading and my back was getting wet too. Looked at the foot end and could see no water coming in, looked at the head end and noticed that the pull handle there was soaked and wicking water at a good rate. At this point I pulled the cord and got out of the hammock. This is when I noticed the ridge line seam was leaking in several places and dripping at good rate on the hammock. While all of this was happening the the weather outside was getting worse with wind and rain. I pulled the cord on the rest of the testing experience and will be making some DIY seam sealer later this afternoon and spend Christmas day working on this issue.

    Conclusion:
    Just because it says safe for Silnylon does not mean that it will seal Silnylon.
    Always do a test hang close to the house or somewhere that you can easily bail from if things go bad.
    Ask the manufacturer, especially the ones on this sight, if they have a recommendation for a certain problem.
    Last edited by bigbamaguy; 12-25-2009 at 02:53. Reason: typing this early should not be allowed
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    At this point, just spend the $6-7 and use Silnet. it's tried and trusted the world over... and if you end up buying 3 tarps or more like i have in the past several months, you'll have enough to seal all of them! good luck and merry christmas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak52580 View Post
    At this point, just spend the $6-7 and use Silnet. it's tried and trusted the world over... and if you end up buying 3 tarps or more like i have in the past several months, you'll have enough to seal all of them! good luck and merry christmas!
    Sil net is crap. FAR better is Permatex Flowable Silicone windshield sealant, available at most autoparts stores. Cut the tip small and smooth with a plumber's flux brush. I recommend two coats. The silnet applicator is designed to waste the product, so you'll buy more of the overpriced stuff. Thanks again to HC4U for discovering this stuff.

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    Sorry to hear your hang went bad. silnet, inside and out, for the price its less monkeying with mixing and stirring the sil./min. spirits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbamaguy View Post
    Well it is early Christmas morning as I write this and I am sadly disappointed in my most recent hanging experience. I received a BBDD Winter Tarp,..........
    Hey Bama and Merry Christmas morning! Before you go mixing stuff up, many have reported excellent results with this stuff:
    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ghlight=sealer Or, just use the Sil-net already recommended.

    I have sealed two JRB tarps with that Permatex Flowable 100% Silicone Windshield Sealant, and neither has yet leaked a drop either from the weather or from blasting with hoses.

    I am not familiar with the BBDD? Is that sil-nylon? The above sealant is meant for sil-nylon.

    We have got to get you dry under a tarp!
    Last edited by BillyBob58; 12-25-2009 at 15:40.

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    That's kinda why I now insist that people who sell me things that need sealing, do so before I'll buy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear bag hanger View Post
    That's kinda why I now insist that people who sell me things that need sealing, do so before I'll buy them.
    I agree... I have not figured out how to seal seams in a manner that keeps the cost down to Made-In-China levels, so I don't make stuff sacks. It's frustrating, because MMPs need stuff sacks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I agree... I have not figured out how to seal seams in a manner that keeps the cost down to Made-In-China levels, so I don't make stuff sacks. It's frustrating, because MMPs need stuff sacks...

    That is what kept me from buying a MMP.

    One day, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    That is what kept me from buying a MMP.
    You can always just purchase the stuff sacks at REI...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    You can always just purchase the stuff sacks at REI...

    I suffer from a lack of trust. If something can escape, it will.

    I like what eay has done, and when I'm able to make bags like hers, I'll be a Molly Bagger.

    http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=11326
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