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    Michael and I left at noon today. He wanted to spend New Years at home. We've been outside watching fireworks.

    I'll post some pictures I took as soon as someone starts a trip report thread.

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    After Baby Momma got home last night I was able to turn the posse over to her. They are still coughing a bit so they couldn't do any camping.
    The weather forecast was getting me aroused,,,,LOW 30s.

    So I started hanging my Hammock lastnight,The cold front was supposed to blow through just before midnight, so I hung a Hennessy, cause it has the side tie outs for the expected wind.

    BUT, I was having second thoughts, having to carry that HEAVY HEAVY, EXTREME sleeping bag from the gear trailer. Cuz thay are not practical for Back Packing and all
    So I did some modification to the plan.

    I was able to reduce the weight, I cut the number of pairs of socks down to 1 pair, Cut the fleece jacket from the set up, cut the insulated bib coveralls out. and probably reduced the over all weight by a bunch of GRAMS.

    Ahhh, this made that trip from the gear trailer over the the hammock rack much more easier while packing that heavy bulky EXTREME sleeping bag.
    After a few minutes I was set, My Hennessy Expedition, the Hennessy Camo Hex tarp, the Extreme sleeping bag,
    1 pair of socks, standard issue east Texas blue jeans, a F of L t-shirt, standard issue east Texas blue jean shirt, and my fleece blanket from Walmart. The set up was complete.

    Around 10:30pm, the wind started to blow and the rain came through. I was getting excited now, the temp was dropping and the wind was kicking.

    By this morning it dropped to 30 degrees. Awsome...

    The entire night I was warm and comfortable with just the hamock, tarp, sleeping bag and the fleece blanket folded up and under my lower back and butt.

    For a "Car Camping" scenario, I am impressed.

    There are alot of folks on here that are not Hikers and Back packers, but when they ask for cold weather information they often get directed to,,, oh you need to get a quilt , or "that set weighs to much,,, I can fit all my stuff in a pill box and carry 3 days of water in a thimble, and don't forget about the pads.....

    My point is, not everybody on here is a Hiker. not everybody carries their stiuff in a Back Pack, some folks just like to camp, or "sleep out"

    The lurkers and new folks tend to get intimidated, when they feel their stuff is inferior and won't work.

    A fellar can be comfortable in a hammock, with basic gear and not break the bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    ..... My point is, not everybody on here is a Hiker. not everybody carries their stuff in a Back Pack, some folks just like to camp, or "sleep out"
    ... and that's perfectly OK

    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post
    ..... The lurkers and new folks tend to get intimidated, when they feel their stuff is inferior and won't work.
    Not sure why they should ... lots of discussions about all levels of camping from car to backpacking to hard core UL guys (not me in gear or gut ).

    I think with enough time here you'll find all these gals and guys quite helpful and far from elitist. That said everyone has their favorite ways to do things and can be opinionated of them at times.

    WHY we even associate with ... gasp ... GROUND DWELLERS!

    Sounds like a great trip you had ... nice toasty and warm! Thanks for sharing it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post

    My point is, not everybody on here is a Hiker. not everybody carries their stiuff in a Back Pack, some folks just like to camp, or "sleep out"

    The lurkers and new folks tend to get intimidated, when they feel their stuff is inferior and won't work.

    A fellar can be comfortable in a hammock, with basic gear and not break the bank.
    You are absolutely right. The point is to get outside and have fun and sleep comfortably. There are many ways to do that. Also, I think many of the creative ideas for great gear come from folks who see a better way for themselves and just do it. Thanks for the reminder. Congrats on your cold-weather hang. I've got some cold weather coming (teens) and so I'm going to get out in the yard tomorrow night doing some tweaking and testing too. Lots of fun!


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    Good stuff, Randy.

    I'm curious...what does the bottom of that bag have going on that allows you to get away with no pad or UQ? Is it so thick, that even when compressed, there's still sufficient insulation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawk-eye View Post
    ... lots of discussions about all levels of camping from car to backpacking to hard core UL guys (not me in gear or gut ).

    I think with enough time here you'll find all these gals and guys quite helpful and far from elitist. That said everyone has their favorite ways to do things and can be opinionated of them at times.
    I think Randy's point is that backpackers make up the majority here, and they quite logically are concerned with weight. Ergo, most discussions at least touch on the weight component.

    That's okay with me. I've camped out of boats/trucks/ATVs all my life...I've got my kit together, know what I'm doing, and could write the book.

    That said, I've learned a TON here. I'm losing weight and bulk...just because I'm able to haul half of what I own into the back country doesn't mean that I should, or that it's all necessary for a good experience. Everything in it's place.

    BTW, I've seen Randy's trailer, and it is awesome. He's got it all in one sock, ready to roll on a moment's notice, and really seems to squeeze all the juice out of an outdoor life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    Good stuff, Randy.

    I'm curious...what does the bottom of that bag have going on that allows you to get away with no pad or UQ? Is it so thick, that even when compressed, there's still sufficient insulation?
    I have no idea what is on the inside, but they, ( the intermeadiate and the extreme) are thick.
    I have 2 of the 32 degree 1 pound bags, a bigger 15 degree bag and a Browning high end bag that I thought was a Cadilac. And none of those work like these do.

    I didn't want to order these off the web, because I wanted to see what I was getting, fortunately we have a few Army Surplus stores around here.

    I really really like not having to have all that extra rigging ( UQ, TQ, TC super shelter)and stuff. and NOT having to mess with any PAD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy View Post


    There are alot of folks on here that are not Hikers and Back packers, but when they ask for cold weather information they often get directed to,,, oh you need to get a quilt , or "that set weighs to much,,, I can fit all my stuff in a pill box and carry 3 days of water in a thimble, and don't forget about the pads.....

    My point is, not everybody on here is a Hiker. not everybody carries their stiuff in a Back Pack, some folks just like to camp, or "sleep out"

    The lurkers and new folks tend to get intimidated, when they feel their stuff is inferior and won't work.

    A fellar can be comfortable in a hammock, with basic gear and not break the bank.

    These are very good points!!!
    I guess I tend to read a lot of the posts on here and I zero in on the ones that interest me. Gotta say though... remember those posts about all the math involved...yep I got completely lost in that one and totally intimidated, my brain was feeling pretty inferior by that point!!! My hats off to you guys that were able to get through it And as for a new lurker or member here that happened onto that post...I just hope you stuck around because after all the math was done we got back to talking about hammocks the way most of us can understand Prices of all our gear can also be a stopping point for many newcomers and I for one, was very happy to notice the DIY postings here and read up on how to make a lot of my gear. Now this would have lead to me saving a lot of money except that once I made one thing, I had to make several more..... One more point for new-be's.... don't worry about what ever gear you've got now... just keep reading on here, because somewhere there's a post about someone that has something like you've got and they've tried it with their hammock. I've found that hammock people are very creative people, probably why we noticed the hammock in the first place and thought to try it while camping. And to keep trying it even when the temps were dropping past the freezing point, it was raining cats & dogs and our old tarp from wallmart was leaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldgringo View Post
    ...BTW, I've seen Randy's trailer, and it is awesome. He's got it all in one sock, ready to roll on a moment's notice, and really seems to squeeze all the juice out of an outdoor life.
    Dang I always wanted a set up like that. How about some pictures Randy?

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    Not to change the subject, but here are some pics of my gear trailer.
    It sleeps 2 people, 110 v or 12 v , AC and propane heat.
    I keep all my kayaking and canoeing gear and camping gear already loaded. If we head off to campground and camp I am set, if we paddle off for an overnighter on the river I am set.








    Campground camping



    or river camping



    And one of my Posse members sleeping ( jus had to throw this one in there)

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