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    Adjusting HG Phoenix best practices... newb questions

    Hi all,

    Long time lurker here. Finally pulled the trigger on an UQ and settled on a Hammock Gear Phoenix 20. I have taken it on several backyard test runs and so far, I've had CBS every single night and had to bail on a couple of occasions.

    I tighten the secondary suspension enough to raise the hammock up when it's empty. So, I'm wondering if I'm over or under tightening the end cinches where the draft collars are at. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures to show my work, but I'm wondering if someone has a good setup video or forum thread they could point me to.

    Another question, where do you guys lay in relation to the UQ? As of now the top of my UQ comes up just over my shoulder at the base of my neck.

    Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. And merry Christmas to everyone!

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    What were the temps when you had to bail?

    Were you cold in parts of you that were covered by the Phoenix or at your lower legs and feet?

    Positioning sounds fine. Don't overtighten draft collars. Position the foot end shock cord over your feet.

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    Yep, we need to know the temps you got CBS and if you are a cold sleeper. Personally my 20 quilt will start doing that at about 30 but I'm a really cold sleeper and use the 10/15 degree rule. I do not attempt to take any quilt 15 degree's below it's rating and I'm always warm with this rule.

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    Hi all,

    Long time lurker here. Finally pulled the trigger on an UQ and settled on a Hammock Gear Phoenix 20. I have taken it on several backyard test runs and so far, I've had CBS every single night and had to bail on a couple of occasions.

    I tighten the secondary suspension enough to raise the hammock up when it's empty. So, I'm wondering if I'm over or under tightening the end cinches where the draft collars are at. Unfortunately I don't have any pictures to show my work, but I'm wondering if someone has a good setup video or forum thread they could point me to.

    Another question, where do you guys lay in relation to the UQ? As of now the top of my UQ comes up just over my shoulder at the base of my neck.

    Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. And merry Christmas to everyone!

    Here are my UQ videos for perusal......https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...mBYSPGHjdyGqsL
    Hope there is some insight.
    Primary suspension lifts it up....secondary pulls it lengthwise.
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    Last edited by Shug; 12-25-2016 at 16:24.
    Whooooo Buddy)))) All Secure in Sector Seven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Here are my UQ videos for perusal......https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...mBYSPGHjdyGqsL
    Hope there is some insight.
    Shug
    I was just going to go dig yours up to show, but you beat me to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrailSlug View Post
    Yep, we need to know the temps you got CBS and if you are a cold sleeper. Personally my 20 quilt will start doing that at about 30 but I'm a really cold sleeper and use the 10/15 degree rule. I do not attempt to take any quilt 15 degree's below it's rating and I'm always warm with this rule.
    Thanks guys! Yeah definitely a colder sleeper. The cold spots were down by my butt and lower back. Temps were at the low to mid 40s so I'm thinking the UQ should be good there. Maybe I need to fiddle with the draft collars a bit more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Here are my UQ videos for perusal......https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...mBYSPGHjdyGqsL
    Hope there is some insight.
    Primary suspension lifts it up....secondary pulls it lengthwise.
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    Thanks for the link, Shug! Watched your videos about 100 times. I guess I just need to fiddle around with my setup some more

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexV View Post
    Thanks for the link, Shug! Watched your videos about 100 times. I guess I just need to fiddle around with my setup some more
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    Make sure to fluff the UQ and make sure the down is not all on one end or another. Very important to a UQ.
    Whooooo Buddy)))) All Secure in Sector Seven

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    Primary suspension lifts it up....secondary pulls it lengthwise.
    Shug
    ^This, so much this.

    Shug's HG UQ video helped me figure out what was wrong and what I needed to adjust.

    It took a little time getting use to my HG Incubator.
    What I identified as my cold spots were due to:
    A. Cold Butt - Secondary Suspension was not adjusted for my diagonal lay. i.e. Shoulder and corresponding footbox needed to be tightened. Opposite corresponding sides loosened.
    B. Cold Upper and Lower Back - Baffles were too tight and created a gap around my back. Loosened both sides of the head and foot end.
    C. Cold Neck - My pillow created a gap and the cold air flowed in. I just moved the pillow so it wrapped my neck better.

    I had to troubleshoot each one of these issues bit by bit until I finally figured it out. There were a few cold nights but after I got it . . . . oh man is that under quilt comfy! Good luck with your new UQ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shug View Post
    Make sure to fluff the UQ
    What does it mean?
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