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    I like that... makes a nice covered eye, thicker than the line, and won't close up on you. Kinda like built in chafing gear. I wonder if it's stronger than a locked Brummel?
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    tied one allready?that looks like what i took apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonetracker View Post
    ...that looks like what i took apart.
    It should... I used your instructions.
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    Creative idea but I'm not so sure about this approach. Wonder if it doesn't allow the loads to distribute properly along the splice and wouldn't a standard buried splice be simpler?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    Wonder if it doesn't allow the loads to distribute properly along the splice...
    The bury locks, so the eye is static. The load distributes itself as usual, no differently from a locked Brummel.

    The question is, which is weaker, the two marlin splice passes through the standing part in a locked Brummel, or the split in this doubled eye?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    I like that... makes a nice covered eye, thicker than the line, and won't close up on you. Kinda like built in chafing gear. I wonder if it's stronger than a locked Brummel?
    That looks interesting.

    I think it doesnt weaken the splice anymore thanthe Locked Brummel. Looks cool, but doesnt look to have any more fucntionality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    ...doesnt look to have any more fucntionality.
    1. eye holds open better
    2. eye has a core for strength
    3. eye has a sheath for protection
    4. eye is stronger (according to MacEntyre)
    5. eye can't be pulled apart
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacEntyre View Post
    1. eye holds open better
    2. eye has a core for strength
    3. eye has a sheath for protection
    4. eye is stronger (according to MacEntyre)
    5. eye can't be pulled apart
    Not to nit pick... That was just my opinion...

    1. Holds open better for what? And after you weight it, does it spring back open?

    2. I wouldnt call it a sheath. Because once you wear through it, you have effectively put the eye into unusefullness. Isnt the "sheath" part of the locking system?

    3. It no stronger than its weakest link. Unless this is an eye to eye splice. If its in a whoopie config, the weak link is the exit of the adjustable bury.

    4. See number 2 above. And the eye cant be pulled apart in a proper Locked Brummel either, unless your trying to get it apart. I would imagine if one was trying to get this one apart, they could.

    But like I said.. It looks cool!!! And thats worth its weight in gold.

    And I need to work on my spelling...
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    Quote Originally Posted by opie View Post
    Not to nit pick... That was just my opinion...
    Of course!
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    1. Holds open better for what? And after you weight it, does it spring back open?
    For putting it onto things... certainly it will open and remain open better than a single part. You have to be an old salt to appreciate eyes that hold open. I used to lasso spiles with 2" ropes, and the eye that didn't hold open made me look bad. I'll show you in another post how to make an eye that holds open, and is locked to some extent.
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    2. I wouldnt call it a sheath. Because once you wear through it, you have effectively put the eye into unusefullness. Isnt the "sheath" part of the locking system?
    Nope, ope... the eye doesn't lock. The bury in the standing part locks.
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    3. It no stronger than its weakest link. Unless this is an eye to eye splice. If its in a whoopie config, the weak link is the exit of the adjustable bury.
    True, however, the eye itself is stronger than a single part eye, for whatever that is worth.
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    4. See number 2 above. And the eye cant be pulled apart in a proper Locked Brummel either, unless your trying to get it apart. I would imagine if one was trying to get this one apart, they could.
    Point conceded regarding pulling the eye apart.
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    But like I said.. It looks cool!!! And thats worth its weight in gold.
    Yes! I agree! I like it a lot!
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    And I need to work on my spelling...
    Off topic. Watch out, AS might be on this thread.
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    Hold Open Eye Splice

    This is how we used to make hold-open eyes in mooring lines, so we could lasso spiles. There is more to lassoing spiles than this... you have to know how to coil the line, how to throw it, how to release it, and what to do for different things you lasso, such as cleats, bollards, bits, pilings, people...
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