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    Quote Originally Posted by T- Minus View Post
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    I figure 8 my line and use the shot cord loop that is attached to the tarp to secure it when stowed and stakes go into straws to prevent holes
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    then bundled into a stuff sack.
    I'm so stealing your straw idea !

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    Quote Originally Posted by souperjen24 View Post
    Thanks for the visual, that's very helpful!
    That's the best idea I've seen in awhile.Gonna adopt this when my Dutch Xenon Hex arrives as it will have the shock cord and worms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranc0r View Post
    For me, the winner is now an 8" loop of shock cord with a LineLok 3 double lark's headed onto the loop. The double fills the LineLok and prevents twisting. The LineLok weighs less, is rounded, and doesn't look to pose a threat to my tarp when flinging about. I ran 6' of ZingIt through the LineLok (9' for porch mode) with a loop on the stake end.
    Hey @Ranc0r, I tried out Line Loc 3's yesterday with ZingIt and all of them slipped during the afternoon winds. Have you had any issues with slippage?

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    Dutchware hookworms on lines that stay with the stakes. Easier to find the stakes this way, rather than lose them under rocks, leaves, snow, ... Is hard to misplace the tarp, but easy to misplace a stake.

    The hookworms attach to short bungee loops hanging from the D rings on the tarp. This also lets me use the tarp in unconventional (non-hammock-covering) ways with the same set of stakes and guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hang-anon View Post
    Dutchware hookworms on lines that stay with the stakes. Easier to find the stakes this way, rather than lose them under rocks, leaves, snow, ... Is hard to misplace the tarp, but easy to misplace a stake.

    The hookworms attach to short bungee loops hanging from the D rings on the tarp. This also lets me use the tarp in unconventional (non-hammock-covering) ways with the same set of stakes and guys.
    This is what I'm trying now. I'd like keep the lines with the stakes, but that means buying tarp worms. I'm hoping to someday be more comfortable with knots and not need the hardware.

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    I leave my guylines attached to the tarp and roll it up into a snakeskin so they're always there, whether you remember the stakes or not. I play with many of the various knots and hardware mentioned in previous posts. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is color-coding the guylines. I use different colors and diameters for the ridgelines and guys, and at least 2 colors of guyline. Makes it real easy to separate the lines.

    A tarp with lines but no stakes is still going to keep you dry. Stakes without lines are really good for poking yourself with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinneganMcBrisket View Post
    Hey @Ranc0r, I tried out Line Loc 3's yesterday with ZingIt and all of them slipped during the afternoon winds. Have you had any issues with slippage?
    I think some folks have better results using the 2.2 over the 1.75 Zingit. Or, tie in a slippery half hitch stopper knot to keep it from slipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLTurtle View Post
    I think some folks have better results using the 2.2 over the 1.75 Zingit. Or, tie in a slippery half hitch stopper knot to keep it from slipping.
    Agreed. I've had to tie mine as well. Now I'm going to try cutting a little v in them, as I've heard some do, and see if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinneganMcBrisket View Post
    This is what I'm trying now. I'd like keep the lines with the stakes, but that means buying tarp worms. I'm hoping to someday be more comfortable with knots and not need the hardware.
    then maybe my method i describe here might be for you: it does exactly what you want (maybe a bit more convenient than tarp worms, actually, as it does not need any additional step to "lock"), and doesn't require you buying anything. it does mean you'll tie some knots, but only in the confort of your home for initial setup, not on the trail when you're in a hurry/tired etc. so it might be a good "intermediate step" on the way to get more confortable with knots too (the knots in this case are very simple anyway: an ashley stopper, 2x butterfly loop, and blake hitch).

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    Lines on tarp here.
    Sometimes I donít carry or use stakes.

    Probably a personal preference. May not matter too much, either way.

    Maybe you have more than one tarp and only one set of tarp lines.

    If my lines are attached to tarp, Iím ok if I forget to pack my stakes.

    When I pack stakes, stakes are carried in an empty 20 ounce water bottle with cap screwed on. This helps keep inside of pack cleaner and helps keep my other gear from getting punctured.

    Also there would not be much room for tarp lines in bottle.

    Still itís your choice. Hone your own gear the way you want and change and change back at will.

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