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    Good list Mustardman. I've been coveting the rock wren for a while now but haven;t decided if its the best way to go yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gebirgsjager View Post
    I sometimes use an old German Army surplus sleeping bag that has arms and can be used as a Parka as well. It's a bit heavy, but I have found that it lends itself well to hammock camping.
    I used to have one of these! I used it for deer hunting -- great for taking a nap under the nearest tree.

    Not super warm, but good 3-season unit.

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    I dig the rock wren a lot, and many of the other designs, but it seems that few of them go as cold as I want them to be. I want some massive loft for winter use - am seriously considering trying to modify an expensive down sleeping bag to make my own. I'm thinking putting the leg opening on the back side of the bag, where you crush the insulation anyway, would make a lot of sense, to avoid a cold drafty spot.

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    I'm going to guess $800 for a OF Raku...let me know if i'm close when Nunatak writes back.
    Forgot, the JRB Down Sleeves would be perfect for one of these systems and after you're in the hammock the sleeves can be worn inside for more warmth.
    I gave my oldest daughter a WallCreeper (that's why I've got one)...she raved over it. One thing I did notice about them is that the hood is very impressive for comfort and fit.
    I went to the exped site...for men, the down Wallcreeper they say comfort 27F but get this, for men lower extreme -4F ?????
    http://www.exped.com/exped/web/exped...E?openframeset
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    I sent an email to feathered friends to see if they could do a 0 degree Rock Wren - and they can! Here's the response I got:



    "We could over fill the Winter Wren to get it down to 0 degrees Adding about
    12 ounces of down should do the trick at a cost of $10 per ounce. We would
    need to increase the baffle wall height as well to accommodate this extra
    down and that custom fee would be $150 - all this would be in addition to
    the base price of the bag."

    So it would be pricey but possible.

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    I was thinking about the Travel Sack as well. I've put hundreds of nights in mine. The problem is, it's over two pounds (although it compresses nicely) and doesn't get me below 60. It sure has some nice arm holes, though.
    .. truly to enjoy bodily warmth, some small part of you must be cold, for there is no quality in this world that is not what it is merely by contrast. Nothing exists in itself. If you flatter yourself that you are all over comfortable, and have been so a long time, then you cannot be said to be comfortable any more. - Herman Melville

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    There are no arm holes in a Frog Sac....

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    Does it have a leg opening, mrprez? I know nothing about it - just added it since it was suggested by Turk.

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    Yes, the bottom does open up and you can fold it up around your waist similar to the other bags.

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