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    Quote Originally Posted by tlbj6142 View Post
    You could stake it right to the ground (place the stake right through the tarp's tie-out). Though that doesn't give you ability to use tensioners. And/or have a few short loops of tubing on hand to use for "close to the ground" tensioners (larks head the tubing through the tarp's tie-out and run your stake through the loop, position the stake in such a way to generate some tension on the tubing).
    I don't think I want to trust running a stake through a loop in a piece of tubing. If I can manage to get out this weekend, I'm going to give using 3/16'' shock cord cut to 2ft lengths a try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminated View Post
    Using a taught-line hitch is fine for a less steep pitch.
    I always use the taught-line hitch to tie down my tarp. It's the best knot to use. It has never failed me. I thought about going shockcords, and I still might, but I like tying knots. Makes me feel more "survivorish" about setting up my tarp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminated View Post
    I don't think I want to trust running a stake through a loop in a piece of tubing.
    Why not? You are doing the same thing with tarp tensioners.
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    Opie:
    I too would be/am interested in a set of 8 for my BWDD WT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlbj6142 View Post
    Why not? You are doing the same thing with tarp tensioners.
    tarp tensioners made of tubing and cordage, yes.

    Tying a loop in a short piece of tubing then poking a stake through that loop, no.

    are we talking about the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminated View Post
    I'd be interested in a set of eight for my WD v2. I'm still trying to figure out how I'm going to get a good tight pitch when I've got a steep pitch for foul weather mode. Using a taught-line hitch is fine for a less steep pitch, but I can't get the right amount of tension on the line with only a few inches of line to work with.
    I think your best bet for foul weather pitching would be just the tensioner. 6 or 7 inches of tubing with the rope and loops on either end. Run it through your tarps D-ring and then hook both loops to your ground point.

    Imagine this....



    Is your tensioner. The tubing would go from loop to loop. The D-ring would be attached to your tarp and the loops would go over your stake. Much like the MYOG tensioners.

    Or do as tlbj suggested, just put the stake right through the tarp D-ring.

    I can make up some tensioners if you interested, but a full guy line wont give you "to the ground" performance.

    EDIT: Or just use a loop of shock cord. Larks head that to your D-ring and put the end over a stake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbamaguy View Post
    Opie:
    I too would be/am interested in a set of 8 for my BWDD WT.
    When youre ready, let me know. You can order them through my site or we can seal the deal here.

    Actually.. Hold off for a bit... I may go ahead and introduce the new version....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tlbj6142 View Post
    Why not just larkshead the ends of the tubing onto the cord just above/below the knots? You just need to put a small hole in the side the tubing and then turn it over on itself. That's how the pouch on a sling-shot is attached to the tubing. That's how I have the one end of my sling-shot tie-outs attached to my HH fly.

    Here's a link (with photos) I posted years ago on whiteblaze.
    I think that would work well with the latex tubing... But the silicone, if I am understanding it right, would tear if you introduce a hole into it.
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    the tensioners are good for the sil tarps but if you have cuben it does not stretch under snow or ice. Not rain for that matter the wind can blow it in a little if it is really strong but it springs back to normal right after Also making sure you use some sort of spectra cordage will cut down on the stretch there

    I am not sure of spinn texx maybe some one with a spinn tarp can say but i dont think it is supposed too either.

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    Both Cuben and Spinn are, for all intents and purposes, no-stretch. There is an ample amount of bias-stability built into Spinn which keeps it in place overnight.

    It's the nylons that need the tensioners, I wouldn't bother with the other two.
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