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    Loco Libre Gear Ghost Pepper Operator 50 FTW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitsapcowboy View Post
    Loco Libre Gear Ghost Pepper Operator 50 FTW!
    ^^ this
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    Quote Originally Posted by kitsapcowboy View Post
    Loco Libre Gear Ghost Pepper Operator 50 FTW!
    Thanks kitsapcowboy and JmBoh. Wiser words were never spoken.

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    Loco Libre Gear Operator Series 50F Ghost Pepper ordered! FTW!

    I do like Just Bill's Just a Quilt as a synthetic alternative to the JRB Sierra Sniveler. Both are offering a really good price for excellent multi-purpose gear. Shug even donned a complete set of JRB sleeves, hood and Sierra Sniveler to "geek out" as he put it. A wearable TQ plus your normal clothing would keep you plenty warm in camp, and can be combined with other insulated clothing to have quite a temp range with minimal gear.

    For me, however, living in SoCal and trying to keep up with Boy Scouts 30-40 years younger than me, light weight down is the answer - and George's Operator Series along with a 40F Phincubator that I just picked up on the forums is the ticket. Both will be black inside and Moroccan blue on the outside. I'll post a review as soon as I can.

    Thanks all for the help deciding.

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    haven't read all the replies.

    for summer [arkansas] i use the WL stuff, top and bottom. i picked up both uq's; full and partial. i've taken them to 40* several times [down pants to supplement]. they work well in the heat, too.

    even on nights where one would not think a uq is needed, i use them. particularly after a long hike.

    cheers.........sv-

    EDITED [to comment on "camp time"]. my kit always includes down pants and down jacket. if terribly warm, they're my pillow. when needed to supplement quilts, they're there. they also serve as camp wear, with hiking pants and a wind shell as an outer. [rainy weather is modified]. these fixtures helps me keep my base weight ridiculously light yet comfortable.
    Last edited by sidvicious; 05-08-2017 at 13:30.

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    For super warm weather, does anyone forgo the quilt and just use a sleeping bag liner or a top sheet? In the depths of a heat wave I wonder if even a 50*quilt will be too much insulation. I want something extremely light.

    This will be my first summer using a hammock. Is it common to not use an UQ? Or will I expect to need an UQ and not a TQ/liner?
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    Summer Quilt decisions

    My Coleman fleece sleeping bag liner weighs 25 oz. I know folks have summer quilts much lighter then that.

    Everything is a matter of personal preference, but I find that I prefer no UQ at all with nighttime temps above 65 or so. Especially when it's humid. I'm a warm sleeper and like the coolness of the night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by curtiseddie View Post
    For super warm weather, does anyone forgo the quilt and just use a sleeping bag liner or a top sheet? In the depths of a heat wave I wonder if even a 50*quilt will be too much insulation. I want something extremely light.

    This will be my first summer using a hammock. Is it common to not use an UQ? Or will I expect to need an UQ and not a TQ/liner?
    I had a 50 degree EE down TQ that was great, but what I found in the summer is that I'd go to bed warm enough sometimes where I was almost sweaty, and being that warm with down wasn't a great thing for me. Loved the efficient insulation as temps dropped through the night. So I went to a synthetic quilt for summer because of not only my own moisture, but also because the mountains are often high humidity, foggy, etc. enough that I was worried about potential loft loss with the down.

    Not that you don't get moist air in fall/spring, but I'm typically using a stouter down quilt then that I'm less worried about.
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