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    Tree strap length in PNW or PCT?

    We have trees in the Pacific Northwet. Lots of trees. That's good for hanging.

    The problem is, we have many different sizes of trees, from pines that are just big enough to hang from to giant doug fir and, on the drier side of the cascades, ponderosa. Big trees. (I suspect PCT thru-hikers have similar concerns through much of the trail.)

    I'm contemplating lowering my suspension weight by replacing some of my 1" webbing with Amsteel. The question is, how much webbing do I need to make sure that I can get around a big(ger) tree if I need to? This weekend I at one point was going to hang one end from a tree that my 12' strap could barely get around. So I'm wondering if, practically speaking, I can really reduce the length of my tree straps too much.

    What do others do? Do you go long, as short as you think you can get away with, or perhaps take different lengths depending on your destination? How long is "as short as you think you can get away with"?

    Thanks!

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    Senior Member Ranc0r's Avatar
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    Not specific to your region, but I carry two sets of straps. I have a "working" pair that are ~7' and a spare set that are ~12'. I add two whoopie slings and a dogbone and I'm set for any hang I've encountered.
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    Senior Member kitsapcowboy's Avatar
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    Greetings from the north. Better to have and not need than need and not have when it comes to hammock suspension in the PNW. Here's three different kits I like to use that all come in at 210 grams (7.5 ounces) or under and can conquer ten-yard spans with 12" diameter trees as well as 7-yard spans with 30" diameter trees. Amsteel dog bones are your friends...

    https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...-Ten-Yard-Hang

    Kit #1 (about 200 grams):
    * Pair of Dutch Cinch Bugs on 8-foot 1" poly webbing straps (with sewn-on Dutch Clips)
    * Pair of 6-foot 7/64" Amsteel whoopie slings
    * Pair of 36" x 7/64" Amsteel dog bones
    Pros: Fairly light weight, packs very small, deploys/detaches easily, multiple points of adjustability
    Cons: Some assembly required for spanning really big gaps, most expensive

    Kit #2 (about 210 grams):
    * Pair of Dutch Adutchables on custom DIY 15.5-foot 1" poly webbing straps
    * Pair of DIY 7/64" Amsteel soft shackles
    Pros: Simple to use with one-piece construction for wide range of easy adjustment and attachment, moderate price point
    Cons: Most bulk and weight of my three options, adjustment point is high up on the tree

    Kit #3 (about 190 grams):
    * Pair of 6-foot 1" poly webbing tree huggers
    * Pair of Dutch Clips
    * Pair of custom DIY 12-foot 7/64" Amsteel whoopie slings (or swap for 6' dog bones and 6' WS)
    * Pair of DIY 7/64" Amsteel soft shackles (or swap for Dutch Biners)
    Pros: Fairly light weight, moderate price point
    Cons: Lots of components to misplace, moderately large pack size

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    Pie are Square; although my professor insisted that Cornbread are square and pie are Round

    I've recently seen just how much larger diameter the average tree is in those Ponderosa forests and the forests of the Sierras. Definitely need larger straps while in the west than in the East coast

    Oh, almost forgot...
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    "Climb the mountains and get their good tidings.
    Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees.
    The winds will blow their own freshness into you, and the storms their energy,
    while cares will drop away from you like the leaves of Autumn." John Muir


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