new member seeking some feedback

[Kroma]

OP, you asked about comparable alternatives to WBBXLC with winter top cover. No one has mentioned Dream Hammock. There...I just mentioned them.

[rweb82]

OP, you asked about comparable alternatives to WBBXLC with winter top cover. No one has mentioned Dream Hammock. There...I just mentioned them.

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[swalkerv]

I went through the same process you are going through. (Before the Chameleon was even an option!) I ended up deciding on the Warbonnet XLC. I wanted a winter top cover and I ended up deciding to order it without one. For me, adding it pushed it a hair outside of my comfort zone. I have not wanted it or needed it since. In fact, I now GREATLY prefer to go without a bugnet at all if there are no bugs. When I know it's not buggy I use a DIY hyper D hammock. It's lighter and allows the crisp evening air on my face. I later bought two Dutchware Chameleons. Now I have to choose between the open air DIY, the Warbonnet XLC and the Chameleon... I say all that because it's a journey. Whatever you buy will likely not be your last hammock. I think the warbonnet XLC is an EXCELLENT starter hammock. The real question is whether you go with 1.1 or 1.7 and SL vs DL. (Of which my suggestion would be SL 1.7) Welcome!


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[swalkerv]

I went through the same process you are going through. (Before the Chameleon was even an option!) I ended up deciding on the Warbonnet XLC. I wanted a winter top cover and I ended up deciding to order it without one. For me, adding it pushed it a hair outside of my comfort zone from a cost standpoint. I have not wanted it or needed it since. In fact, I now GREATLY prefer to go without a bugnet at all if there are no bugs. When I know it's not buggy I use a DIY hyper D hammock. It's lighter and allows the crisp evening air on my face. I later bought two Dutchware Chameleons. Now I have to choose between the open air DIY, the Warbonnet XLC and the Chameleon... I say all that because it's a journey. Whatever you buy will likely not be your last hammock. I think the warbonnet XLC is an EXCELLENT starter hammock. The real question is whether you go with 1.1 or 1.7 and SL vs DL. (Of which my suggestion would be SL 1.7) Welcome!


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[Pete02093]

Hi, welcome and enjoy your BB XLC! I have a regular BB and I don't use a winter cover, I use the bugnet it adds some warmth. honestly putting a tarp down low is good enough for me at below 0 levels and I was so toasty. No problems with condensation. If you are going to really be way below zero the cover can add warmth definitely but a good winter tarp will cut the wind which is what you want. I have the Superfly and I love it. Get it in silpoly not nylon as nylon tends to stretch.

I see you are in Mass, hope you will be joining some of our hangs. Come to the fall NEHHA at Mohawk state forest in Charlemont to meet some very nice people. Hope to see you around.

Thanks! I will check out the fall NEHHA, great area of Massachusetts;Charlemont.

[Pete02093]

what is "SL & DL"?

[Pete02093]

Thank you all for the hospitality and advice. I'm taking a long look at the Chameleon. I did look at them before and I can't even remember why I leaned toward the Warbonnet.
So many options with the Chameleon. What is the ideal fabric weight for an 180lb guy looking to backpack in the White Mountains. 1.6? I tend to like the not be seen if possible so I like the green/cammo combination. Herself, who theory wants to go along at some point likes to annouce where she is...idk bright orange or something. I guess if she goes also goes the stealth.

[Singingcrowsings]

what is "SL & DL"?

Single Layer & Double Layer

Yes, love my Dream Hammock!

[gunner76]

Go here to learn all the weird "names" we use https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...mmock-Acronyms.

I own an XLC with the top cover but have not used it yet. Another hammock I have with a top cover has been used down to nine degrees and worked just fine. I used three thermometers on one cold camp out and it was 5 degrees warmer inside the hammock with the top cover than just outside under the fly and 10 degrees warmer than the reading I got from the thermometer out in the open about 50 feet away.

If you are using a top cover and condensation is an issue then you need to vent. May not totally eliminate the condensation but will help.

I do find a sock works better if it is windy as that cold wind will suck the warmth right out of your set up if you can not block it.