But that SPE approach is cheap and super effective plus your all set if you should have to go to ground one night. Hopefully that will never happen, but it has happened to me above timberline in the Rockies. though of course, you are on a pad in the hammock and many folks hate that. I prefer no pad ( just the SS if needed), but a pad/SPE in the hammock is still a lot better than a pad on the ground, to say the least. I have not had any noticeable condensation problems with a pad/SPE and sleeping in fleece. Perhaps the fleece just made the condensation not noticeable?