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  1. #41
    Senior Member Halfed's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benson Burner View Post
    Yes, watertooner, yes you need another hammock. Hahahaha this time I got a single layer and I’m saying you can’t even see the ripstop much less feel it. That single layer eldorado is cash money. “The golden” just like it says. Silky smooth.


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    Did you get a 1.6 SL?
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfed View Post
    Did you get a 1.6 SL?
    Let me see....yeah. Single layer 1.7 it says.
    SPECIFICATIONS
    Single Layer 1.7 Eldorado:
    Weight capacity: 250 Lbs
    Item weight (webbing/buckles): 1lb 10oz
    Item weight (whoopies): 1lb 8oz
    Item weight (continuous loops): 1lb 4oz
    Fabric: 70D Nylon


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    Senior Member Halfed's Avatar
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    Nice! I've got a 1.6 SL BB (40D). I'm curious about 1.7!
    I'm glad you're enjoying it!
    Thanks
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  4. #44
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    Conroe, Texas
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    I sleep well in all my Warbonnet hammocks (RR, XLC, and 2 Travelers). When the weather is really cold I prefer the XLC and Wooki. For warmer weather I choose the RR. When inside the house I most often use a Traveler.

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    Senior Member Scott8691's Avatar
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    I would like to know weights of all these combinations. It seams that by the time you have the XLC fully tricked out, top cover, wookie,.....it could be substantial? My WBRR with cinch bugs, webbing, trekking pole tips is 27.9oz. Arrowhead Equipment Ridge Creek XL is 19.8oz. 2QZQ underquilt protector is 5.3oz. And Cloudburst tarp with snake skins, ridgeline, guy lines. 4 stakes, and tarp pullouts 27.1oz. (All weights include stuff sacks) That is 80.1oz (5lbs 1oz). I do not carry the spreader bars because I use my trekking poles. I have lighter setups, but I carry the Ridgerunner because the comfort trumps all.
    I would be curious to know what a XLC and Eldorado with 20 degree wookie complete trail ready setups weigh. ( we’ll say double layer, since my WBRR is a double layer)


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    An XLC2 heavyweight DL with topcover, 20 deg wooki, and WB UQP with a matching list of tarp, lines, stakes, etc that you have above weighs in around 6.2 lbs.

    Because the Eldorado is constructed on the same "frame" as an XLC, but has fewer frills, it weighs 2-3 oz less. The overall weight then is still around 6 lbs.

    The differences in weight when comparing your set-up of the RR to the XLC2 or Eldorado is the lack of using dedicated spreader bars (12 oz) and a bit less material in the RR construction.
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    Senior Member Scott8691's Avatar
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    Thank you Watertooner! Great information to have!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott8691 View Post
    I would like to know weights of all these combinations. It seams that by the time you have the XLC fully tricked out, top cover, wookie,.....it could be substantial? My WBRR with cinch bugs, webbing, trekking pole tips is 27.9oz. Arrowhead Equipment Ridge Creek XL is 19.8oz. 2QZQ underquilt protector is 5.3oz. And Cloudburst tarp with snake skins, ridgeline, guy lines. 4 stakes, and tarp pullouts 27.1oz. (All weights include stuff sacks) That is 80.1oz (5lbs 1oz). I do not carry the spreader bars because I use my trekking poles. I have lighter setups, but I carry the Ridgerunner because the comfort trumps all.
    I would be curious to know what a XLC and Eldorado with 20 degree wookie complete trail ready setups weigh. ( we’ll say double layer, since my WBRR is a double layer)


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    I run the WBBB XLC Heavyweight Double with topcover, 20° Wookie and Dutch Hard/software and my complete system comes in a just a hair over 4lbs.

    I'm comfortable with that weight as a great nites sleep is worth having that in my pack after a 15 mile hike.

  9. #49
    Senior Member Scott8691's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMS210 View Post
    I run the WBBB XLC Heavyweight Double with topcover, 20° Wookie and Dutch Hard/software and my complete system comes in a just a hair over 4lbs.

    I'm comfortable with that weight as a great nites sleep is worth having that in my pack after a 15 mile hike.
    It is hard to beat comfort! I’ll work on loosing the 30 extra lbs I’m carrying on my body rather than sacrificing a good nights sleep on the trail!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott8691 View Post
    It is hard to beat comfort! I’ll work on loosing the 30 extra lbs I’m carrying on my body rather than sacrificing a good nights sleep on the trail!


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    Exactly !!

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