Tensa Outdoor and the commercial packable tensahedron stand

[bluesam3]

What linda stakes are people using instead of the orange screws
I just picked up some 3/16 pencil rod and am planning on bending a loop on one side and sharpen the other
Was trying to use these 12” nails but tie outs would slip right off


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If you've got the room, ny kind of nice big tent pegs pitched in a sufficiently reinforced setup will hold way more load than you're ever going to apply with a tensahedron.

[Theguywitheyebrows]

What linda stakes are people using instead of the orange screws
I just picked up some 3/16 pencil rod and am planning on bending a loop on one side and sharpen the other
Was trying to use these 12” nails but tie outs would slip right off

i always tie a loop of paracord to each stake as an easy way to connect without worry. if i run my guylines out far i usually tie a taut line hitch unless its the end of the line and i just becket to the stake, if i got lotsa line left i usually run it through the stake loop, back through the tarp's own shock cord loop, and mccarthy hitch to the tarp or the stake if theres that much left <- adds tightening advantage for each return (my favorite, learned from the hiker god guy andrew something sounds like kuksa i think). Paracord loops on stakes, 1/8" shock cord loops ate tie outs, double 1/8" at ridgeline corners

[OCDave]

What linda stakes are people using instead of the orange screws
I just picked up some 3/16 pencil rod and am planning on bending a loop on one side and sharpen the other
Was trying to use these 12” nails but tie outs would slip right off


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You can make these types of spikes work but at a huge weight disadvantage compared to the Orange Screw. The holding power of the orange screw relative to the weight is remarkable.

Is there a problem you are haveing with the Orange Screw you are trying to solve or just trying something different?

[cmc4free]

Weight most likely not the absolute biggest factor when using a stand like this.
Brutalguyracing, are you setting up a Tensa4 or Tensa Solo? The anchors do bear higher load in the Solo configuration than the foot end anchor does in the Tensa4 setup.

If you're staking out in conditions where the Orange Screws won't work, maybe look into Alamosa anchors. You're already part-way there with those nails.
https://www.hammockforums.net/forum/...348-Stake-Boom

[Latherdome]

Orange Screws can’t be driven in to very hard or rocky ground. That’s where nail-type anchors are best. But nail types pull out easier in almost any kind of ground that you can get the Orange Screws into.

The dilemma is sharper with Tensa Solo that puts much bigger loads on the anchors.

Nail type anchors with a boom, AKA Alamosa anchors, may split the difference. We’re working on making these available with ti nails and 7000-series aluminum booms for our forthcoming Trekking Treez product. Turns out they’re lighter than OS.


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[brutalguyracing]

Orange Screws can’t be driven in to very hard or rocky ground. That’s where nail-type anchors are best. But nail types pull out easier in almost any kind of ground that you can get the Orange Screws into.

The dilemma is sharper with Tensa Solo that puts much bigger loads on the anchors.

Nail type anchors with a boom, AKA Alamosa anchors, may split the difference. We’re working on making these available with ti nails and 7000-series aluminum booms for our forthcoming Trekking Treez product. Turns out they’re lighter than OS.


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Sweet
Any timeframe for these to be released
Going to make some anyway as I already have the rod
Very Rocky in PA can barely get a nail in more then a few inches
Not really a game changer as I can always use the bike or my truck as an anchor
But it would limit the places available, this is why I am.looking for other options
And i love seeing how others do it

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[Latherdome]

Sweet
Any timeframe for these to be released

We’re moving on it. Prospective boom supplier sent samples not matching spec. Once we sort that out, likely a couple few months depending how it gets here from China.



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[curlymaple42]

We got our three stands set up in the yard and my wife and daughter got in their and I got in mine and WHAM-O!!! TACO MONDAY! I think worst I did wrong is set the foot end tether at a vertical to the orange screw. The screw was at an angle of course but the tether went straight up basically. I moved the screw out a couple feet and it seems better. I moved me wife's out too, after she helped me out of my taco.

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[Crazytown3]

@curlymaple that's kooky! Did the foot end screw pull out at all? Or do you just attribute it to the verticalness of the tether?

[Shug]

We got our three stands set up in the yard and my wife and daughter got in their and I got in mine and WHAM-O!!! TACO MONDAY! I think worst I did wrong is set the foot end tether at a vertical to the orange screw. The screw was at an angle of course but the tether went straight up basically. I moved the screw out a couple feet and it seems better. I moved me wife's out too, after she helped me out of my taco.

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Yessir...that tether need to be at a larger angle for sure!
Move it more thn a couple of feet if you can. Be Taco-Free!
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