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    Upgrade items to save weight ?

    I am debating one which to upgrade first and would like to know if $1,000.00 USD for upgrading three items is worth saving 51.1 oz for a weekend warrior's third year in hammock camping? Please to not hesitate to reply with any thoughts or opinions, I will also have a YES and NO poll. Thanks in advance and happy hangin'!

    I will paste a few of the upgrade options I am interested in below:
    Upgrade Price Weight Savings
    Arc Haul 350 26.5 12.476
    Ohm 2.0 225 34.5 4.476
    HG tarp 380 9.76 13.24
    WB Thunder 155 14.9 8.1
    WB Mini 135 13 10
    Garmin Inreach Explorer 380 7.1
    Hammock Gear TQ ECON 99 13.5 23.5
    Hammock Gear Burrow 159 11.75 25.25

    CURRENT GEAR INCLUDES:
    Osprey Talon 44 @ 39 oz
    WB Super Fly @ 22 oz
    WB Yeti 20 @ 9.4 oz
    WB Wookie 0 @ 25 oz
    Last edited by Spike; 01-31-2018 at 16:51. Reason: added current gear to aid with the FEEDBACK
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    Most definately NOT worth $1000 to upgrade to save 1.something kilos.

    I guess it really depends on how much YOU earn and how far you have to hike the weight.

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    I would definitely upgrade your quilts first, and then your tarp (I would stay conventional). You'll get a lot of bank for your buck in terms of weight savings -- and also probably some tangible performance benefits. Good luck.

    PS: Since you are in Canada, you might also want to check out the Razor tarps from Little Shop of Hammocks; James does beautiful work.

    PPS: Also look at the Winter Haven from Simply Light Designs and the Winter Dream from UGQ Outdoor; I own both and love them.
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    It's not a simple yes or no. It's an incremental thing. It may be easier to show us what you have now and help you prioritize. It's difficult to say what you could upgrade that would be most beneficial without seeing what you have now. Without that info, I say yes it's worth it, but it depends on your mentality and goals. For me, a dyneema composite fiber tarp isn't worth the weight to cost ratio. My tarp now is only 11g. The $400 to save 2 ounces isn't worth the time I get to spend backpacking.

    Quilts - always a good investment. Are you trying to get away from the yeti for a reason? Rather a full size UQ? (I don't blame you) I think the quilts should be looked at first. It's an improvement both in weight and in comfort.

    Packs are a tough area. An argument could be made for doing that first and doing that last. It will give you the most significant weight loss, but, at the same time, upgrade everything else and you will know how much space you actually need and that could drive your pack purchase. Case in point, I bought an Ohm 2.0 and absolutely love it. As I kept downsizing and improving my gear, I found that for summer trips, the Ohm was a bit too big and wound up getting a CDT.

    Like I said, it all depends on your motives and goals. There's no one right or wrong answer, just the answer that works best for you.
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    If you are a thru hiker putting down hundreds of miles, it may benefit you. But for the mid mileage hiker who is never out over a few days at a time, I’d say no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spike View Post
    I am debating one which to upgrade first and would like to know if $1,000.00 USD for upgrading three items is worth saving 51.1 oz for a weekend warrior's third year in hammock camping? Please to not hesitate to reply with any thoughts or opinions, I will also have a YES and NO poll. Thanks in advance and happy hangin'!

    I will paste a few of the upgrade options I am interested in below:
    Upgrade Price Weight Savings
    Arc Haul 350 26.5 12.476
    Ohm 2.0 225 34.5 4.476
    HG tarp 380 9.76 13.24
    WB Thunder 155 14.9 8.1
    WB Mini 135 13 10
    Garmin Inreach Explorer 380 7.1
    Hammock Gear TQ ECON 99 13.5 23.5
    Hammock Gear Burrow 159 11.75 25.25
    Is the resale price of current gear considered?

    I use Ebay as an upgrade program...I almost never pay full price (used/new for clothes,tarp, etc...) and I almost always have something on sale to reapply on new gear.

    Purchased all of my quilts during sales.
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    Thanks for the quick reply, below my current setup...and thanks for your time critiquing...

    Spring/Summer Weight
    Item grams oz
    Superfly 650 23
    WBBB 1.1 DL'er 761 27
    Yeti 348 12
    Goslin Bag TQ 1045 37
    Oprey Talon 44 1105 39
    Total 138oz 8.63lbs


    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderlost View Post
    It's not a simple yes or no. It's an incremental thing. It may be easier to show us what you have now and help you prioritize. It's difficult to say what you could upgrade that would be most beneficial without seeing what you have now. Without that info, I say yes it's worth it, but it depends on your mentality and goals. For me, a dyneema composite fiber tarp isn't worth the weight to cost ratio. My tarp now is only 11g. The $400 to save 2 ounces isn't worth the time I get to spend backpacking.

    Quilts - always a good investment. Are you trying to get away from the yeti for a reason? Rather a full size UQ? (I don't blame you) I think the quilts should be looked at first. It's an improvement both in weight and in comfort.

    Packs are a tough area. An argument could be made for doing that first and doing that last. It will give you the most significant weight loss, but, at the same time, upgrade everything else and you will know how much space you actually need and that could drive your pack purchase. Case in point, I bought an Ohm 2.0 and absolutely love it. As I kept downsizing and improving my gear, I found that for summer trips, the Ohm was a bit too big and wound up getting a CDT.

    Like I said, it all depends on your motives and goals. There's no one right or wrong answer, just the answer that works best for you.
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    Saving a quick 3 lbs in quilts alone? Very nice worthwhile upgrade IMO.

    Quick weekend trip, thru hike, something in between? It doesn't matter to me...your body will always enjoy a lighter pack. Even small changes can make a trip much more enjoyable. Just because you can carry a 40lb pack doesn't mean you shouldn't explore lighter options. So the only issue is money...spend a little here and there to avoid the sticker shock.

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    Yes all the prices were just taken from the vendor website.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vanhalo View Post
    Is the resale price of current gear considered?

    I use Ebay as an upgrade program...I almost never pay full price (used/new for clothes,tarp, etc...) and I almost always have something on sale to reapply on new gear.

    Purchased all of my quilts during sales.
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    These are two separate upgrade options for my TQ only, the ECON vs the Burrow...

    I am just a weekend warrior, have not gone out more than three consecutive nights yet but plan to this year.

    Quote Originally Posted by OneClick View Post
    Saving a quick 3 lbs in quilts alone? Very nice worthwhile upgrade IMO.

    Quick weekend trip, thru hike, something in between? It doesn't matter to me...your body will always enjoy a lighter pack. Even small changes can make a trip much more enjoyable. Just because you can carry a 40lb pack doesn't mean you shouldn't explore lighter options. So the only issue is money...spend a little here and there to avoid the sticker shock.
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