Introducing the new 2018 Warbonnet Eldorado

**warbonnetguy** · 04-24-2018, 15:16

Originally Posted by ShortRound

What’s the weight of just the 1.7 single layer hammock body?

Weight of single 1.7 hammock body with zipper and ridgeline is 13.4oz

**Tyroler Holzhacker** · 04-24-2018, 15:18

Originally Posted by warbonnetguy

Our weight rating is based on comfort, not max weight capacity. Actual tensile strength is going to be similar to hexon 1.6 and robic 1.7 ...70+ lbs/inch
Someone 350-400 lbs is going to get a good bit of stretch out of a a single layer 1.6/1.7 and would be better off in a double layer or a heavier single layer fabric.

what about someone 280ish?

**warbonnetguy** · 04-24-2018, 15:36

I think you would probably notice a little more stretch than somebody 200-250, hopefully someone in that weight range will chime in with more direct experience between say a single 1.7 and a double 1.7 or a single 2.4. I would say above 300 and you'd benefit from a bit more support for sure, below that weight and it might still be a reasonable option. I think the sweet spot is when you don't really notice the fabric stretching much at all. When it is more noticeable and you start sinking way down into it is where I think most people would gain comfort by bumping up to something more supportive.

**Halfed** · 04-24-2018, 15:50

Could you please tell me what is the difference between SL 1.7 (70D) and SL 1.6 (40D) as the weight capacity is 250Lbs on both.

Thanks

**warbonnetguy** · 04-24-2018, 16:25

Originally Posted by Halfed

Could you please tell me what is the difference between SL 1.7 (70D) and SL 1.6 (40D) as the weight capacity is 250Lbs on both.

Thanks

Not alot, the 1.7 is a 70d, the 1.6 is a 40d. The 1.7 is more breathable, the 1.6 more windblock. Both are about the same weight and tensile strength.

**James Fowler** · 04-24-2018, 16:48

Originally Posted by warbonnetguy

I think you would probably notice a little more stretch than somebody 200-250, hopefully someone in that weight range will chime in with more direct experience between say a single 1.7 and a double 1.7 or a single 2.4. .... I think the sweet spot is when you don't really notice the fabric stretching much at all. ...

I'm closer to 250 than 200. I haven't noticed any stretch at all in my double layer 1.7 BB XLC. While I haven't tried a lot of high end hammocks, it's absolutely the most comfortable hammock I've ever slept in.

**HandyRandy** · 04-24-2018, 17:18

I was wondering what the 1.7 fabric is really. Is it 1.7 Robic or something else? I have tried a DL 1.7 XLC and just want to know for reference.

**Shug** · 04-24-2018, 17:24

I have the 1.7 Single Layer Eldorado.
Feels nice. Going to nap in it now.
Will take it on next weeks trip.
Shug

**QFT** · 04-24-2018, 17:26

I've always loved your hammocks but have been disappointed at the lack of truly lightweight options. I can get 1.0 or 1.2 weight hammocks at other manufacturers that are 13-16 ounces for an 11 foot netted hammock with continuous loops. I keep watching Blackbirds go through iterations and get slightly lighter but definitely not "light" - but they're supposed to be a high-feature hammock, not a minimalist sort of thing. I was hoping that the Eldorado would have an option in that weight range. Considering it's pitched as a lightweight hammock, it would certainly make sense to me. When I see the El Dorado at 20+oz, I see a hammock that isn't as light as its competitors, and isn't as fully featured as a blackbird. Is there a particular reason that you do not use materials that would give us a 13-16oz netted hammock? Would you consider making one in the future?

Signed,
Resident Weight Weenie

**Shug** · 04-24-2018, 17:33

Originally Posted by fsupaintball

I've always loved your hammocks but have been disappointed at the lack of truly lightweight options. I can get 1.0 or 1.2 weight hammocks at other manufacturers that are 13-16 ounces for an 11 foot netted hammock with continuous loops. I keep watching Blackbirds go through iterations and get slightly lighter but definitely not "light" - but they're supposed to be a high-feature hammock, not a minimalist sort of thing. I was hoping that the Eldorado would have an option in that weight range. Considering it's pitched as a lightweight hammock, it would certainly make sense to me. When I see the El Dorado at 20+oz, I see a hammock that isn't as light as its competitors, and isn't as fully featured as a blackbird. Is there a particular reason that you do not use materials that would give us a 13-16oz netted hammock? Would you consider making one in the future?

Signed,
Resident Weight Weenie

I can say that the fact the bugnet is well off of your face over you and to the side makes it a bit heavier. To get the best of that feature it requires using the pullout shock cord and 2 mitten hooks. Well worth it to get that bugnet away from the side of my face when getting my backwoods snooze. In my opinion.
Plus the fully removable bugnet means zippers.
Shug