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    Thumbs down I'm Boycotting Byer of Maine

    Fair warning; I am on my soapbox!

    I just spent my lunch hour on one of my REI pilgrimages. I was over in the tent area to pick-up some extra Fig 9s and some utility cord. The hammock rack is right next to the place where the Fig 9s were supposed to be (they were out of stock!) and I always just peek to see if anything is new. There are usually Hennessy Hammocks, ENOs, and Byer of Maine (Amazonas) hammocks. I saw something I had not seen before. Iím sure theyíve been there every time Iíve looked, but I never saw them until this trip and I wish I hadnít seen them at all.

    What I saw actually offended me and, Iíll be honest, made me mad. Maybe I need to be medicated. Byer of Maine sells these little gems:



    The package labeling looks identical to that image. A heavy steel biner attached to an eyebolt THREADED INTO A TREE! WTF!!!! I thought, surely this is just a bad picture. I picked up the package and turned it over to see what looked to be a 4Ē long eyebolt with big gnarly thread flights. Itís one thing to sell them, itís another thing entirely to show their Ďproper useí as being screwed into a tree. That should really help hangers convince folks that hammocks are LNT, huh?

    Granted, Byer of Maine isnít the first company most people think about when selecting a camping hammock. But, they are being sold at outdoor retailers! I understand the thin cord that they and many others sell; I donít like it, but I understand it. However, this bolt-into-the-tree package is simply heinous and I wonít stand for it. I own three Byer hammocks currently.

    I will not own any more.
    I will not purchase anything from them in the future.
    I will not set-up their hammocks at Meet-Up events.
    I will suggest people avoid their products at every opportunity.

    I canít decide if Iím more mad at Byer for offering them, or at REI for agreeing to sell them. Iím still Ďfreshly pissedí, so possibly some clarity will settle in after some time. Iíll give it a little time and then Iím firing off a letter to both companies that will adequately express my displeasure. Wonít do me a lick of good, but just like posting this little rantÖ.it will be therapeutic.

    Boycott Byer of Maine and tell people why!
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    This tree huggin' bleeding heart liberal has your back, and I'm sure a lot of normal folk agree as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by avalonmorn View Post
    This tree huggin' bleeding heart liberal has your back, and I'm sure a lot of normal folk agree as well.
    I'm no tree hugger but that's just plain stupid! Ever heard of a tree strap? The problem I see with this is inexperienced people will think that's what you do. They should sell straps and have instuctions for people to go to the hardware store if they want to go the screw/eyebolt way.

    Hard to believe REI would carry that.
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    I usually don't join in boycotts, nor do I expect people to join me in my crusades. However, I think you have found a worthy cause, I and I pledge my support.

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    or suggest they change the pic to a fence post, 4x4, or deck rail at the very least.
    Add a "For Household use only" label, perhaps...
    As stated before- a worthy cause! KM

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    ... On line REI shows it as online only .... and no tree pictures. In their write up they show for porches and deck use ... so no foul there I guess.

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    I'm with ya.
    I'm an LNT trainer myself & I for one will be showing as many people possible that this is the "WRONG WAY"
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    I don't find it anymore offensive than the stolen goose down in your yeti. Pour little gooselets running around all naked and cold. Boycot down, boycot down, boycot down. LOL!

    I think these would be perfectly fine if used on a tree on your own property.

    IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by leepingreenlizards View Post
    I don't find it anymore offensive than the stolen goose down in your yeti. Pour little gooselets running around all naked and cold. Boycot down, boycot down, boycot down. LOL!
    You'd get along well with Genuine Draft. She feels bad every time she crawls into one of her quilts. However, they aren't going to ban down products because people are using them improperly. Many areas already ban hammock usage, because of people abusing trees and such. There is a difference. It may be a thin line, but it's there.

    Again, I have no issues with putting screws, bolts, nails, etc into trees around the yard. But, when you advertise these things in an area with backpacking tents, sleeping pads, and tarps within 10', you ARE NOT targeting the backyard user. You are targeting the camper/hiker. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannibal View Post
    You'd get along well with Genuine Draft. She feels bad every time she crawls into one of her quilts. However, they aren't going to ban down products because people are using them improperly. Many areas already ban hammock usage, because of people abusing trees and such. There is a difference. It may be a thin line, but it's there.

    Again, I have no issues with putting screws, bolts, nails, etc into trees around the yard. But, when you advertise these things in an area with backpacking tents, sleeping pads, and tarps within 10', you ARE NOT targeting the backyard user. You are targeting the camper/hiker. Simple as that.
    They should have a picture on the package showing it screwed into a post, along with some text saying "do not use on/damage damage trees other than on your land...... do not use on public land or parks".
    For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
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