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    This stuff is all so person so I really appreciate all the different opinions. It's very helpful on this path, thank you all! I definitely will be going with the econ now I need to really think about degree rating.

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    I only have the Econ 20 and Econ 40. I find them to be exceptional. They're much softer on the skin than my Blackbird XLC DL 1.7; they don't make me feel clammy either.

    The temperature rating seems conservative from Hammockgear. After acclimating to colder New England temperature, I was warm in humid 40 lows with shorts, t-shirt, and wool socks. I think I'd still be comfortable in inclement 40 weather. Women might need it 10-20 warmer though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnieDT89 View Post
    We're hiking so I might go with both at 10 degrees and no over fill. I have my pack down to 28.6 with good and water and my wife down to 26.3 with good and water. So hopefully we can handle both 10 degrees items.
    I'm not sure 10* and 0* quilts are hiking quilts.

    I have HG 40*, 20* and 0* quilts (the 40* and 20* UQs are HG 3/4 Phoenix UQs, while the 0* is an Incubator). While I have hiked 6 to 22 miles in a single day with the 40* and 20* quilts, I can't go more than 4 miles with the 0* quilts. They are too bulky for my 50L GoLite pack, and barely fit in my 70L pack, with very little room for food, etc. Personally, I can't imagine trying to hike more than 4 miles with 10* quilts, especially if the actual lows are going to be anywhere near 10 degrees!
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    So for 15-30 degree lows you guys would go for a 20* set?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnieDT89 View Post
    So for 15-30 degree lows you guys would go for a 20* set?
    I'm fairly religious about using a 10* buffer - always have quilts rated at least 10* lower than the expected low. Below 30* F, I always like a full-length underquilt because my feet get cold. But that's just my personal preference.

    I've tried doing 15* F with a 20* quilt set - my feet didn't like it (but it was a 3/4 UQ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by DonnieDT89 View Post
    So for 15-30 degree lows you guys would go for a 20* set?

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    I think a 20* set would be just fine for TN. As others have said HG seems to rate conservative. I've gone below by 10* and been fine.
    Hanging in the woods, paddlin and catching trout- My kind of living...

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    So, if 15F is the forecasted low for the night, I'd like the quilts to be rated to 15. If inclement weather arises, then I know that I might still withstand 8-10 in shorts. If less than 0 hits, then my merino wool thermals and possibly rain pants and fleece sweater comes on. I would likely need to pull all the stops to stay warm below an unexpected 0F. Based on my understanding, more insulation on legs and less insulation on body allows heat to travel downward quicker (just a theory).

    NOTE that all my quilts have 1 oz overfill to account for compression or lost of down over time.

    I've also made an assumption that I would [still wear] sleeping shorts in that weather since I did in 40 with my 40 Econ quilt.
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    Most manufacturers already do a slight overfill on their gear. I've had Wilderness Logics, Hammock Gear, Loco Libre, UGQ, and Jacks R Better at or slightly below their "ratings" and can honestly say they have all performed as advertised. Since they already overfill slightly, I don't add extra. If I'm adding extra down, I'm getting a warmer quilt with bigger baffles to take advantage of the loft.
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    I like to overfill a little as well. Since there's no real "starting point" set in stone, even if the manufacturer is already overfilling, what does that mean? I take their word for it, but like W8lkinUSA said, it is good peace of mind for compression and lost of loft over time. If I need to go colder, I'll but the appropriate rating...but guess what? I'm still gonna add 1oz of overfill.

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    I lost a feather on the first night due to my modification to the 40 topquilt. Whipped the footbox from the inside, then left it unzipped on most nights. A single feather came out near the whipping. Loved the mod though!!

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