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    Hi everyone. Wanted to provide an update and bring closure to this topic. So after working together with the ROBIC yarn manufacturer Hyosung and considering all options, we have ultimately decided to move our lower denier fabrics (7D, 20D, and 40D) away from the ROBIC branding and into our high-end MTN series line.

    The backstory here is that earlier this year (August 2018) we began working with Hyosung to vet the supply chain and clear up some branding issues. Through that process, we determined that some of the yarn being used in our ROBIC fabrics was not ROBIC branded. The yarn being used was a high-quality nylon 6, which is one reason the fabrics are so good, but it was not a branded yarn.

    It's important to realize that a brand name is simply a company's way of making their product easily recognizable in the marketplace. While the presence or absence of a brand name can suggest the quality level of a product, it does not necessarily mean that the product (in this case yarn) is the absolute best.

    In the end, we decided to remove the ROBIC branding and stick with the existing unbranded, high-end nylon 6 for a few reasons. Most notably, moving to all ROBIC branded yarn would have meant long production lead times, higher MOQs, and a slightly increased price for the end fabric. The kicker is that even if we did absorb all that, we would have no guarantee that the fabric would have been any better in performance than it is right now.

    So effective immediately and moving forward, the following fabrics will be listed under our MTN series line:

    0.74 oz MTN 7D Ripstop Nylon - high-end, ultralight quilt shells, wind/rain gear, etc.

    1.2 oz MTN XL Hybrid - ultralight, wide body hammocks

    1.7 oz MTN XL Hybrid - lightweight, wide body hammocks

    To be clear, nothing is changing about these fabrics at all. They just have a different name now.

    That being said, the future of ROBIC at RBTR is very bright. We will be concentrating on heavier pack fabrics such as the 420D ROBIC. We're also working directly with Hyosung to bring on several new ROBIC pack fabric lines, hopefully launching before the end of this year .

    I also wanted to say thanks to everyone for their patience as we worked through this and we do apologize for the confusion. Thanks!
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    I just made a Hammock from Robic 1.7 that I recently ordered. I was looking for a stiff fabric, as my old stretchy hammock was feeling uncomfortable.
    WOW! This 1.7, whatever you call it, is wonderful to sleep on! In perfect world, it could be a little slicker to make rolling over easier (I'm a side sleeper). But that doesn't matter because this is the most comfortable hammock I've ever slept in!
    Buy this fabric with confidence!

    Did I mention that it is the easiest to work with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripstopbytheroll View Post
    Hi everyone. Wanted to provide an update and bring closure to this topic...

    ----------snipped for brevity, not for content------------

    I also wanted to say thanks to everyone for their patience as we worked through this and we do apologize for the confusion. Thanks!
    Thanks for the transparency. One more reason I'm glad I've ordered from you guys twice now.
    Cheers.

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    Ok so here is probably a really lazy question - as I could just get on google and see what I find but.......
    1.6 Hyper D - is this a Robic yarn or something completely diffferent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GillyGilligan View Post
    Ok so here is probably a really lazy question - as I could just get on google and see what I find but.......
    1.6 Hyper D - is this a Robic yarn or something completely diffferent?
    It's different...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peppy View Post
    It's different...
    Thank you

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    Gee, and I thought the big challenge to hammocking was locating a couple of trees the perfect distance apart. The best it getting this all worked out.

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    I think Rick made it really clear. Do not discuss the lawsuit in any way. I have removed a number of posts from this thread that, while not directly saying it, were gear toward the lawsuit. Take this as your final reminder folks. Moderators/Admins at HF are not going to take kindly to the need to police every post. Please return to the topic of hammocks and their related items, not the politics around them.

    For those who don't open the Home page, you will find Ricks post there.

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