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    Carabiner gate up or down?

    When using webbing/buckle susp system....when connecting to carabiner, is it proper to have gate facing up or down? I was thinking up is "safer"?
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    I've never paid much attention to which way the carabiner was facing and have never had issues (in my limited experience). The only difference I could see is that facing down may have the possibility of webbing sliding down and bearing on the gate which could potentially cause a failure. This is purely a guess though.

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    I generally have the gate facing up, but I think you'd really be just fine either way.

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    I have my gate up but thatís just due to making it easier to attach the continuous loop. Every so often Iíll end up with it facing down and Iíve never had an issue. The only concern Iíve ever seen with caribeener position is you donít want a looped rope looped around the gate itself.

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    So long as it's climbing rated it doesn't matter.

    If you hang your pack or something other than your hammock then gate up seems prudent just to ensure you don't cross load it.
    That said- most climbing rated biners have a cross loading rating as well as one for inline so unless you're bouncing on it hard failure is highly unlikely, so I often left it facing down so it was easy to clip on my pack.

    On my bridges the biner actually lays flat because of how it's loaded.

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    Thanks everyone! I appreciate the advise for a newbie!!
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    We were required to use a locking beaner when rappelling out of a helicopter. They are set up to be used with the gate up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carver View Post
    We were required to use a locking beaner when rappelling out of a helicopter. They are set up to be used with the gate up.
    Iím trying to remember if ours were locking or not. I donít think they were because of their (understandably) strict checks for fatal hookups.


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    For primary climbing/rappelling carabiners (the one you clip your harness into), those almost always have locking gates. Those are ultra overkill for hammocks.

    For quickdraws, the general advice is to face the gate away from the direction of travel, e.g. if you climb left, face the gate to the right.

    For hammocking, that will never happen as you have a static rig with the line coming away from the tree.

    TLDR: it doesn't matter which way the gate faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TxAggie View Post
    I’m trying to remember if ours were locking or not. I don’t think they were because of their (understandably) strict checks for fatal hookups.


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    We were rappelling out of a small helicopter in YNP using a Sky Genie on kermantle rope. The rappeller was required to carry a Jack Safety Knife in case it was necessary for a quick release. The rappeller control his own descent rate.

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