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    DCF hex tarp; packed down

    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    I looked at your pack list and perused your blog, and to me it looks as if you know what you're doing. Pack pic from one of your AT sections looks like a ULA Ohm, no?
    Ohm2. Itís been with me for four out of five long-assed AT sections, and is like an old friend now.
    You have to ask yourself if you're comfortable going from 62L to 38L, and from framed to frameless. Can you get both and give 'em a whirl? There's also a bit of a learning curve when it comes to packing a frameless. Also, my own happy zone for TPW with the Zero is about 15-16 lbs... end of day water carry with 19-20 lbs TPW is definitely out of that zone. Perhaps also consider framed and reasonably light (21oz) such as Zpacks Arc Blast.
    I lusted after the ArcBlast since they day they were released. I think Iím gonna stick with the Ohm2 for long hikes. An MLD Burn might be my weekend bag
    The only thing on your gear list that really gets my attention, esp from the hammock perspective, is the Exped synmat and no UQ. I understand the go-to-ground necessity (reg requirement) in some cases ó and I've done it ó but not at the expense of the UQ. It gnawed away at my gram-weenie soul but I carried both for a 5 day hike in Baxter State Park... an extra 10.4 oz that was used only one night ó horrors!
    OH GOD NO! I have no idea how my Burrow 40 UQ fell off that list. Some midnight geeking no doubt. I fixed that. And yes, carrying a pad as well seems so wrong - Till Iím sleeping comfortably in a shelter during a crazy thunderstorm!

    And I had put the prophet on there to see what it would do to the numbers ... the Ohm2 is back on there.

    So with a Dutch half zip in hexon 1.0, HG Burrow 40 quilts, DIY UCR/Dyneema hugger suspension, my base weight for a summer Long Trail E2E is currently 11.6 lb

    https://lighterpack.com/r/38fgjt
    Last edited by Ldog; 12-11-2018 at 07:54.

  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldog View Post
    OH GOD NO! I have no idea how my Burrow 40 UQ fell off that list. Some midnight geeking no doubt. I fixed that. And yes, carrying a pad as well seems so wrong till I’m sleeping comfortably in a shelter during a crazy thunderstorm!


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    lol gotta be a by-gawd gram weenie to appreciate the cringe that occurs with such an oversight.

    But in the context of dinky packs, having both UQ and air mat is of course going to place more of a premium on packed size, so the DCF tarp might blow the volume budget. Better to get a slightly larger pack than having to shoehorn stuff into a small pack. Overstuffing a frameless pack can have a very negative impact on carry comfort.
    Perfection is achieved not when nothing more can be added but when there is nothing left to take away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoulder View Post
    lol gotta be a by-gawd gram weenie to appreciate the cringe that occurs with such an oversight.
    It made me cry to add it back in and look at the numbers
    But in the context of dinky packs, having both UQ and air mat is of course going to place more of a premium on packed size, so the DCF tarp might blow the volume budget. Better to get a slightly larger pack than having to shoehorn stuff into a small pack. Overstuffing a frameless pack can have a very negative impact on carry comfort.
    Iím thinking Iíll stay with my old Ohm2 and maybe look at something like the Burn for shorter hikes where Iím not packing 8L of food, or the El Camino.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldog View Post
    Iím thinking Iíll stay with my old Ohm2 and maybe look at something like the Burn for shorter hikes where Iím not packing 8L of food
    So I decided to go a different way for this upcoming LT E2E. Iím leaving the hammock behind, taking a Borah Gear tarp & Bivy, and I ordered Superior Wilderness Designís Superior 35 HB - Frameless ... An X PAC body with Dyneema X pockets and Cordura hipbelt.

    Still working to get pack weight down, but I think Iím within the comfort range of the pack now.

    https://lighterpack.com/r/38fgjt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldog View Post
    So I decided to go a different way for this upcoming LT E2E. I’m leaving the hammock behind, taking a Borah Gear tarp & Bivy, and I ordered Superior Wilderness Design’s Superior 35 HB - Frameless ... An X PAC body with Dyneema X pockets and Cordura hipbelt.

    Still working to get pack weight down, but I think I’m within the comfort range of the pack now.

    https://lighterpack.com/r/38fgjt

    Interesting. If there was one long trail I would most certainly want my hammock for, it would be the LT

    the whole tarp/bivy seems cool but I think it would be a pain the rear to set up every night. If going to the ground, I would rather have the plexamid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldog View Post
    So I decided to go a different way for this upcoming LT E2E. I’m leaving the hammock behind, taking a Borah Gear tarp & Bivy, and I ordered Superior Wilderness Design’s Superior 35 HB - Frameless ... An X PAC body with Dyneema X pockets and Cordura hipbelt.

    Still working to get pack weight down, but I think I’m within the comfort range of the pack now.

    https://lighterpack.com/r/38fgjt
    I hope that 9x7 tarp works for you. When I was doing the tarp/bivy thing I used a HMG EchoII (8.5'L x 8.5'W-head x 6.6'W-foot) and it was marginal in nasty weather.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue indian View Post
    Interesting. If there was one long trail I would most certainly want my hammock for, it would be the LT

    the whole tarp/bivy seems cool but I think it would be a pain the rear to set up every night. If going to the ground, I would rather have the plexamid
    I agree about the hammock on the LT. Been hesitant to part with the lettuce ZPacks wants... I suspect Iíll be going back and forth right up to my departure day ...

    I kinda like the idea of the old school UL approach. I might lose enthusiasm for it on the third night in a row of rain ...

    **** man, you got me thinking about that plexi ...


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