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    I thought I read somewhere here that climbing rope is meant to stretch which makes it bad for hammock suspensions. You may end up on the ground by morning! Have you slept overnight in it yet with that suspension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisH View Post
    I thought I read somewhere here that climbing rope is meant to stretch which makes it bad for hammock suspensions. You may end up on the ground by morning! Have you slept overnight in it yet with that suspension?
    I think I heard the same. I wasn't thinking about him using the climbing rope for suspension, just in the end of the hammock. That short of a rope I wouldn't be worried about stretch. But if the rest of the suspension is climbing, then may have a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AA1PR View Post
    Instead of using a whoopie sling I used 6mm climbing rope. I am not into UL or worried about that aspect. Even though the photo depicts my unfinished end & finished.
    Link to my hammock project is here: http://zombiehunters.org/forum/viewt...p?f=34&t=76969


    The WB / gathered end method that Knotty shows in this thread attaches the suspension via a larks head around the fabric body and the sewed channel just creates a knot of fabric and cord that keeps the larks head from sliding off. The method you use here puts all the stress on the sewed channel... It will work if you sewed it well enough but I don't see a reward you get for the added risk. You could attach the same carabiner ( attach carabiner with a second larks head as well to elliminate your knot) to a loop of rope and larks head that around the gathered end and accomplish the same suspension result and have less risk of catastrophic failure (ie: butt meets hard ground when least expected). YMMV - just my opinion...

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    More than 1 Way

    Quote Originally Posted by GvilleDave View Post
    The WB / gathered end method that Knotty shows in this thread attaches the suspension via a larks head around the fabric body and the sewed channel just creates a knot of fabric and cord that keeps the larks head from sliding off. The method you use here puts all the stress on the sewed channel... It will work if you sewed it well enough but I don't see a reward you get for the added risk. You could attach the same carabiner ( attach carabiner with a second larks head as well to elliminate your knot) to a loop of rope and larks head that around the gathered end and accomplish the same suspension result and have less risk of catastrophic failure (ie: butt meets hard ground when least expected). YMMV - just my opinion...
    I have seen that method and thought it looked very strange, in the sense that one would trust their knot binding against the fabric. I would think that would weaken the material and cause failure eventually. I felt by havign four layers of material under the end there would be more structural strength to the fabric than a single layer. Check out my project link as I probably used more stitchs than was needed...
    There is however more than one way of doing things. It has supported almost 300lbs so far and no issues for an hour of my testing. I took a nice long nap in it with some extra gear thrown in for good measure. If it was going to fail I wanted it to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AA1PR View Post
    I have seen that method and thought it looked very strange, in the sense that one would trust their knot binding against the fabric. I would think that would weaken the material and cause failure eventually. I felt by havign four layers of material under the end there would be more structural strength to the fabric than a single layer. Check out my project link as I probably used more stitchs than was needed...
    There is however more than one way of doing things. It has supported almost 300lbs so far and no issues for an hour of my testing. I took a nice long nap in it with some extra gear thrown in for good measure. If it was going to fail I wanted it to happen.
    ...however, this is the whipping method that Eno uses...on my hammocks anyway...

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    I agree - absolutely more than one way to skin a cat... This site is based on that principle and the sharing of ideas. I was not trying to say you're wrong just that I saw more risk w/ no added benefit. Enjoy the new hammock & keep us posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GvilleDave View Post
    I agree - absolutely more than one way to skin a cat... This site is based on that principle and the sharing of ideas. I was not trying to say you're wrong just that I saw more risk w/ no added benefit. Enjoy the new hammock & keep us posted.
    I concur and thought that it was quick, simlpe & down and dirty

    On another note I am thinking about adding a layer of primaloft to my HH SS.
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    AA1PR- you should have started a new thread with your hammock pics and link, as to the fact that this thread is for the gathered end hammock and not the ENO style. I think that the post should be about the gathered end that Knotty showed and the success and failures of said hammocks. My .02
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    First and foremost, Thank you Knotty for the video (I hope it will prove to be most useful). I was looking a few pages back and expanding on what GvilleDave illustrated “opt 3” … I would like to do a similar design with a “double hung” pad holder???

    Questions come to mind: 1) am I way off? 2) should the 6’ swatch go inside or underneath? (real noob question, but I could see benefits to both so figured I would ask) 3) should the swatch go end to end or is it ok to hang out in the middle?

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    TMJess, I was thinking about the same idea. You use 1/3 to half the fabric of a double layer with all the benefits. Just wonder if the pad will stay put.
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