Butt in a Sling vs Dream hammock

[adventuregirl]

I have narrowed my next hammock choice down to a Butt in a Sling camper lite or. Dream hammock free bird. The free bird is 12 oz, the buttinasling is 9 oz. I have looked over several comparison threads, but they don’t answer my questions. I will be using ENO atlas straps or something similar. I don’t want to be convinced about whether I need a bug net or Whoopies, I have my reasons for what I want and am not looking to change my ways. So my big question is what’s more comfortable? I toss and turn so need a hammock that’s wide and will support whatever side I choose to sleep in. I currently have an ENO double and a homemade 11 footer. The 11 footer is more comfortable than the ENO, but I fall out of it more often, so I’m looking for an 11 foot hammock that’s a little wider than my homemade version. The buttinasling has a weight limit of 200 and I’m 175 so I’m a little nervous about being to close to the weight limit. I will not gain weight, and am hoping to lose a little, but still... the dream has a weight limit of 275. Those who have both what’s more comfortable? Am I safe close to the weight limit in the bias? I am trying hard to get my pack weight down and both of these will do that, they both have great reviews and both are in the price range I can afford right now. So what do you all think?

[TominMN]

It just seems that, because a strap suspension is what you'll be using, there would be no reason to try to save 3 oz by going with a lighter fabric (even though you are looking to shave pack weight), which I have to believe is the reason the BIAS is lighter. I know the Smurfs can help you choose a comfortable fabric, if you go that way. I've never worked with BIAS to build a hammock so I don't know what options they offer.

[ckmaui]

Never slept in a dream

Been sleeping in my bias for a few years every night love it
Reckon both are though but the bias has held up very well FYI

[Tony c]

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The bias hiker light is made of a soft polyester material that's low on stretch and that has a taffeta-like feel, the Hiker Lite measures a tremendously comfortable and long 132" x 55" and weighs 9.5 or 19 ounces (single and double layer respectively). Due to the hand-crafted nature of this hammock, exact measurements may vary slightly.
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If you're sleeping in the hammock, I'd say get the camper model. The hiker is too skinny and is a day lounging hammock. Dream hammock would give you hyperD 1.6 d the base fabric which is good and about 58 inches wide finished. simply light, Arrowhead, and warbonnet all sell near wide (, around 60 inches) basic nylon netless.

[goobie]

It all comes down to the fabric, comfort is very subjective. If you're comparing apples to oranges, which I think you are, it's going to hard to give a comparison. As an example HyperD 1.6 and Argon 1.6 have less stretch than I prefer, but most hangers prefer no stretch. Robic 1.0 (in a Darien this will likely be lighter than the bias) is about perfect but I'm at the limit weight wise so longevity will likely be an issue for me.

I have a BIAS WW micro double layer that's 64" wide that I really liked. My Robic 1.0 DH Raven, also 64" wide, has replaced it for the reason mentioned previously.

[Rolloff]

I own one of BIAS's original 11' 1.0 WW. It's a great piece of kit, but I've cut my lengths and widths down to better suit me on the last two DH Freebirds.

I call it pretty much a toss up between the two on both their basic netless offerings, with a lean towards DH on the more expensive custom integrated models. BIAS gets the nod on lead times for the most part, but the Smufs build and ship in a week, once you get through the 3-4 week queue.

[snippet]

I have a Freebird that I've been sleeping in full time since Jan and it's very comfortable. I'm a side sleeper and I get a great lay no matter which side I'm on.