Slippery Lapp Knot: another no-hardware, strap-to-CL option

[leiavoia]

death of the x bend...

No, actually the X is my preferred suspension knot now. Thanks for posting that.

I dont care for the Lapp as a suspension knot. It does work good for things like hanging a bear bag though, or anything else that needs an exploding bend.

[cmoulder]

I used WB's Becket Straps, MeyersTech blue straps, and Dutch's Spider/Poly straps. Right now I'm about 260lbs and had zero issues/concerns with slippage using the three types. I feel the blue straps...sure wish them came in black...probably induced the least friction and were the easiest to release. Just my opinion based on the feel as I was using them with the Lapp.

That's good to hear!

When I tested them it was with a bridge (bar end, actually) with a hangle of about 20° so it was pretty extreme. I'm about 170# so I'd take a WAG that the dynamic load (I think that's the right term) was about 500#.

[BillyBob58]

Also, just to clarify, it's a slipped half hitch for sure and not a slipped overhand?

What ever this is: http://www.mosquitohammock.com/hammockknots.html

[cmoulder]

What ever this is: http://www.mosquitohammock.com/hammockknots.html

Ah OK, that helps explain it... Claytor Hitch, which I don't think I've seen before. I thought it was a half hitch direct to CL which I would envision as being problematic.

Of course I thought the same thing about Lapp Hitch at first!

[BillyBob58]

Ah OK, that helps explain it... Claytor Hitch, which I don't think I've seen before. I thought it was a half hitch direct to CL which I would envision as being problematic.

Of course I thought the same thing about Lapp Hitch at first!

Yep, Claytor calls it a slipped 1/2 hitch, with a second as a stopper. Is that not what it is, should it be called something else? Maybe it is different as it wraps around the 2 lengths of webbing coming back from the tree rather than 1 webbing strap?

When I use it with something other than Claytor- like with CLs on my 90 degree Hammock Tent for example, it seems like the same knot to me, I tie it in the same way, except there is only a single length of webbing coming from the tree and through the CLs. But honestly, when using the Claytor and it's original webbing from 12 years ago, I usually only tie off on one side of the webbing. It has made no difference that I can tell.

I wonder how long webbing that is never left out in the Sun is safe for? It still looks about the same, as does all my other older webbing.

[cmoulder]

Interesting, it's kinda like a variation on a trucker's hitch, using as it does a loop and a half hitch.

In my admittedly limited experience nylon webbing can last a long time. I told the story elsewhere, but basically I helped pull a tractor with a big mowing deck out of a ditch with some 2" nylon webbing (tubular). The webbing was at least 20 years old, having been obtained from a relative who used to be a load master on a C-130.

[BillyBob58]

Interesting, it's kinda like a variation on a trucker's hitch, using as it does a loop and a half hitch.

In my admittedly limited experience nylon webbing can last a long time. I told the story elsewhere, but basically I helped pull a tractor with a big mowing deck out of a ditch with some 2" nylon webbing (tubular). The webbing was at least 20 years old, having been obtained from a relative who used to be a load master on a C-130.

Well, that's reassuring!