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    Two All-In-One Tarp and Hammock Suspension Options

    Here are 2 different hammock and tarp all-in-one suspension options that anyone can make themselves. Be sure that your tarp tie outs have some type of shock cord self adjusters. Both systems are strong with high weight rating. Both allow users to quickly wrap around and adjust for most tree sizes as well as quick attach/detach hammock and tarp on an all-in-one suspension. Both use Warbonnet Fishooks to connect to your hammock loops and the Dutchware Titanium ridgeline biners connect to your tarp.



    **Both systems can be lighter and less expensive by removing some of the hardware and using knots instead.**

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    Dyneema or UHMWPE with Tree Huggers Suspension
    Total Weight: 5.7 oz (pair) Cost around $120

    - 4’ Simply Light Designs or AHE tree huggers x2
    - 10’ Warbonnet dynema or Dutchware UHMWPE straps x2
    - Warbonnet Outdoors Fishooks x2
    - Adutchable clips by Dutchware Gear x2
    - Dutchware Titanium ridgeline biners x2
    - Some lash-it and dyneema loops

    Lighter but for more advanced users since some knots are used. Connect the dyneema straps to the huggers...this allows huggers to stay flat while the dyneema will get wrinkles. The tree huggers adjust to tree width via Adutchable clips and the hammock suspension slides up and down dyneema then tying off with becket hitch on Fishooks. Tarp slides up and down on line via Klemheist (or Prussik) knot. The little yellow lashit loops just make it easier to slide up and down the suspension and the Fishooks lock in place better with a small amsteel loop that is larks headed around suspension. (Shoutout to Myers-Tech). You could save some money by using regular hammock biners in place of Adutchable clips and tie a girth hitch around biners.
    (Youtube search for: “Girth Hitch Hammock Knot”)









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    Tree Straps with Buckles Suspension
    Total Weight : 9.0 oz (pair) Cost around $100

    - 14 ‘ Arrowhead Equipment treep straps x2
    - Dutchware Gear Titanium Clips x2
    - Dutchware Spiders x2
    - Warbonnet Outdoors Fishooks x2
    - Dutchware Titanium ridgeline biners x2
    - Some lash-it loops
    - Dutchware June Bug buckles x2
    (you could also use DWG Beetle Buckles instead of WB Fishooks and DWG June Bugs)

    Slightly heavier, but better for the no fuss setup type of person. Pretty easy to use setup with the most notable difference being the Dutchware titanium spiders. These slide up and down suspension and lock in place with a small lashit loop then clips on to tarp with titanium biners. (Shoutout to Shortround)





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    Here is example of the dyneema option with the SLD Wind Haven tarp and Dutchware Tarp Worm tieouts.



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    Examples of hammock and tarp on older version of single dyneema suspension:





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    Last edited by Papatechie; 03-08-2019 at 15:12.
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    Yes. Very inclusive. Love the options! Its great that there are still ways to do what we donyet to be discovered/developed, and you've caught darn good ones here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theguywitheyebrows View Post
    Yes. Very inclusive. Love the options! Its great that there are still ways to do what we donyet to be discovered/developed, and you've caught darn good ones here!
    Hey appreciate the feedback thanks!

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    How much sag do get with the tarp once you get into the hammock ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner76 View Post
    How much sag do get with the tarp once you get into the hammock ?
    If you get a good 30 degree angle and use self cord shock adjusters on the tieouts the sag is none to little for light weight hangers and some minimal for heavy hangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papatechie View Post
    If you get a good 30 degree angle and use self cord shock adjusters on the tieouts the sag is none to little for light weight hangers and some minimal for heavy hangers.

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    Do you use any shock cord on the tarp attachment to the suspension or just the tie outs? And how tight do you set the tarp ridgeline initially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_Adkins View Post
    Do you use any shock cord on the tarp attachment to the suspension or just the tie outs? And how tight do you set the tarp ridgeline initially.

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    No shock cord on the tarp to suspension only on the tarp to stake guy out. The tarp ridge line is set snug and taut but not super cranked like a drum.
    Check out these videos for examples and demonstrations of same concept.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sry6JEnHc6Y
    HAMMOCK & TARP ALL ON 1" WEBBING
    ShortRound - Gear N' Trail etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xro1l4e9-hU
    All-in-one Hammock and Tarp suspension
    Spiguyver Backpacking

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSUn6zPuyFU
    Rigging A No-Sag Hennessy Hammock Tarp
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner76 View Post
    How much sag do get with the tarp once you get into the hammock ?
    I've tested mine with no shock cord on the tieouts, and the tarp does not sag at all with the hammock loaded. If you have approx. a 30° hang angle, the tarp ridgeline pulls outward (flattening out a little), but does not pull downward. There's no harm in using shock cord tensioners as added peace of mind, but they're not necessary from my observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papatechie View Post
    No shock cord on the tarp to suspension only on the tarp to stake guy out. The tarp ridge line is set snug and taut but not super cranked like a drum.
    Check out these videos for examples and demonstrations of same concept.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sry6JEnHc6Y
    HAMMOCK & TARP ALL ON 1" WEBBING
    ShortRound - Gear N' Trail etc.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xro1l4e9-hU
    All-in-one Hammock and Tarp suspension
    Spiguyver Backpacking

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSUn6zPuyFU
    Rigging A No-Sag Hennessy Hammock Tarp
    Derek Hansen Ultimate Hange
    My worry is in the ridgeline stretch of the tarp. I use a dynema tarp and not sure it has any real give in that direction. Seems like a couple of the videos mentioned the tarp tightening with load.

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