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    Quote Originally Posted by Knotty View Post
    But the grosgrain running along the entire edge will be folded into the rolled hem and no longer be visible.
    Gotcha... I must confess I wouldn't use grosgrain in that way. But then I'm cheap and grosgrain isn't. At least on my budget. I got a whole slew of twill tape. Tell me how much you need and I'll send you some.
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    Thanks for the offer rev, but I've got the material and am ready to start!
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    Steps are correct, but cut before you sew, or sew the ridge then cut is more personal preference than scientific. I cut, then sewed because all of my edges were cat curves and that would have been a task given the bulk of the fabric you're dealing with.

    Grosgrain for the entire perimeter will be a bear. It can be done but that's a lot of ribbon, and cost more ... and it really isn't necessary. It would be lighter without that extra ribbon, but lighter by grams...

    My reinforcement patches are the same material as the tarp, but a different color. Just one layer. The tie outs are grosgrain loops sewed to itself with the tarp sandwiched in the middle. So far, so good, and we've seen some heavy weather. You want the patches to the inside. Inside of what? Inside of the flat felled seam. Sounds obvious, but when you have this humongous piece of fabric sometimes things get turned around, just "measure twice, cut once."

    Doors really help to keep the wind and rain out. As said above, folk were using tarps w/o doors and surviving for a long time w/o them, but they do add a degree of comfort when needed. You can tie them up to get them out of the way if not needed.

    Take your time sewing the corners. You will have a lot of fabric when you get to the points. If you get a bird's nest along the way, stop, undo, redo. You will be looking at this for, hopefully, a long, long time, so take the time now to make it right.

    My tarp was made with "store bought" sil. Even that I've discovered can be "leaky", i.e. in a storm you can feel a mist penetrating the fabric, not a drip or anything, but a mist. Since the first time that happened I've taken to adding a layer of sil waterproofing spray every couple of trips. It adds grams to the weight, but dryness is worth it to me. The same will hold true for DIY sil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    Gotcha... I must confess I wouldn't use grosgrain in that way. But then I'm cheap and grosgrain isn't. At least on my budget. I got a whole slew of twill tape. Tell me how much you need and I'll send you some.
    Darn it, I finally figure out how to say grosgrain without the ladies at Joanne's giving me that head-tilt-Huh? and there's another kind of tape I have to figure out?

    Darn this gear making using gear driven thread injectors is complicated...

    Ooh... this tool thingie looks cool:

    http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/122288...ias_Binder.jpg

    Rev? Any comments on a bias tape binder foot? Or is this another gadget that doesn't work like my "turbo kitchen chef all-in one roaster and golf ball washer from Ronco"?
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    It looks like a turnip twaddler to me. But then I've never gotten a rolled hem foot to work for me while other folks love them. To some degree you pays your money and taqkes your chances. I personally would not use bias tape for binding a tarp for a couple of reasons. 1) I hate the stuff. I find it a bear to sew on. But that's me. 2) It is designed to be flexible and stretchy. I would concerned it would not strengthen the tarp as it should. It is designed for use with quilts or garment seams that do not experience a lot of stress.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    On step five, when you do the tie-out re-enforcements, fold and sew the edges not being rolled up into the hem. Also, sew the re-enforcements to the edge of the unsewn edge. It makes it stronger at those points.

    I still can't say grosgain correctly. LOL Glad I'm not the only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroutEhCuss View Post
    I still can't say grosgain correctly. LOL Glad I'm not the only one.
    To my knowledge it is "grow-grain".

    Twill tape is a fabric tape woven in a twill pattern. Twill is a specific series of over under weaving steps which produce a very highly durable but pliable fabric. Many work pants are made of twill fabric. Twill tape would be the same kind of fabric but woven narrow and long.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramblinrev View Post
    To my knowledge it is "grow-grain".

    Twill tape is a fabric tape woven in a twill pattern. Twill is a specific series of over under weaving steps which produce a very highly durable but pliable fabric. Many work pants are made of twill fabric. Twill tape would be the same kind of fabric but woven narrow and long.
    We use twill tape on the edges of the sewn on door panels. Its lighter and softer than grosgrain. If you go with twill, just be sure to get polyester, not the usual cotton blend that is more prevalent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Questions View Post
    We use twill tape on the edges of the sewn on door panels. Its lighter and softer than grosgrain. If you go with twill, just be sure to get polyester, not the usual cotton blend that is more prevalent.
    If any part of the twill tape is exposed the polyester is almost essential. However, with my tarps it is all encased in the rolled hem. I don't know what the composition of mine is, the spool is not marked. But I am not overly concerned about it.
    I may be slow... But I sure am gimpy.

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    Additional question

    What method would you use to attach a reinforced patch for a pullout at the tarp side center?

    Square patch with grossgrain, or would a round patch be better?
    Reinforce only on the underside of the tarp, or is it necessary inside and out?
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