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    Newb setup front yard

    Hey everyone, I've got a 11' Dutch Netless w\ adjustable ridgeline using whoopie slings and Marlin spike suspension.... Picked up a 12' pro venture hex tarp.

    This is my first time setting up a tarp in any situation.

    This location was definitely too short of a span for my setup, pretty much at the minimum, had to hook my CL to my Marlin spike on foot end, tarp barely fits in the space.

    Does the left side (foot end) appear to be covered plenty by the tarp?


    After messing with the setup for awhile I'm definitely planning on looking at different ridgeline setups. I'd prefer to setup above tarp, but I like having something to hook the bug net to rather than lay over my structural ridgeline.

    I'm guessing that for my under-tarp ridgeline I need to get drip lines in place as well?.

    I will be setting up in a wider space later, this was a quick thoughtless setup so I could learn my tarp hanging (quickly learned a lesson there with site selection).


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    Just noticed another problem I'm going to need to make sure I avoid when I set this up - keep net hooks from touching tarp - will likely wear my tarp down and cause leaks in long rain storms...

    Any tips you getting suspension straps up higher for short people? I have these as far up as I can on the tips of my toes on a high place around the tree base, and sometimes doesn't feel like it's a high enough set.



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    Quote Originally Posted by tenshuu View Post
    Any tips you getting suspension straps up higher for short people? I have these as far up as I can on the tips of my toes on a high place around the tree base, and sometimes doesn't feel like it's a high enough set.

    Use a stick with a Y-shape to slide it up the tree.
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    Tenshuu, great to get outdoors, rigging your gear
    It’s possible to have a tarp ridgeline that is above tarp, and have an additional line just below tarp (not touching tarp) and use it to hold your bugnet up and other stuff like damp shirts
    A good idea to tie lengths of cotton shoestrings to tarp and hammock suspension as driplines
    Tie on with prusik knots
    You can raise tarp and hammock suspension higher than you can reach by using a walking stick. Or you can use any forked branch to raise suspension higher up tree Sometimes you have to walk all way around tree while lifting strap with a stick
    Watch Shug’s ten part YouTube series on how to hang a hammock, tarp, insulation underquilts topquilts and or pads
    Go to at least two local group hammock hangs posted here on Hammock Forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Grappler View Post
    Tenshuu, great to get outdoors, rigging your gear
    It’s possible to have a tarp ridgeline that is above tarp, and have an additional line just below tarp (not touching tarp) and use it to hold your bugnet up and other stuff like damp shirts
    A good idea to tie lengths of cotton shoestrings to tarp and hammock suspension as driplines
    Tie on with prusik knots
    You can raise tarp and hammock suspension higher than you can reach by using a walking stick. Or you can use any forked branch to raise suspension higher up tree Sometimes you have to walk all way around tree while lifting strap with a stick
    Watch Shug’s ten part YouTube series on how to hang a hammock, tarp, insulation underquilts topquilts and or pads
    Go to at least two local group hammock hangs posted here on Hammock Forums
    Where would I find a local group hang in mid-northern Maine?

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    Newb setup front yard

    Click Forums, Outings, Hangouts, Northeast
    There is a Lobster Hang coming up in a few days
    You will see more local hammock group hangs from time to time
    And over time you will see others post who are in your general location. They have impromptu camping trips with small groups, usually less than six. Spring and Fall are busiest, but some camp all year even in cold or hot weather.
    Off topic, you might like that Pumpkin Regatta. They have these humongous pumpkins and carve them into canoes and float down the river whilst in costume. Not sure but I think there’s some drinking going on. Their water craft of pumpkins actually float
    With all this insanity...there’s bound to be some hammock campers in the crowd
    Damariscotta Pumpkinfest and Regatta, had to look it up, was on the tip of my tongue...
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    That's not a tight hang. That actually looks like the perfect hang distance! A tight hang is when you have to start angling the tarp to fit it between the trees The real problem is the space that whoopie slings waste. And it's the main reason why I switched back to cinch buckles. But with all the options available today, it's very easy to put together a suspension that uses whoopie slings, but also works with tree distances around 11' (or whatever you tarp length is). I'm currently converting to short tree straps with Beetle Buckles, Whoopie Slings and button knot loops. With short hang distances, I will hang the button knot loops directly on the Beetle Buckles. When the length of the tree straps runs out, I can attach the button knot loops to the whoopie slings and hang the whoopies on the Beetle Buckles. I don't have long-term experience with it, but so far it looks like it is the best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom Grappler View Post
    Click Forums, Outings, Hangouts, Northeast
    There is a Lobster Hang coming up in a few days
    You will see more local hammock group hangs from time to time
    And over time you will see others post who are in your general location. They have impromptu camping trips with small groups, usually less than six. Spring and Fall are busiest, but some camp all year even in cold or hot weather.
    Off topic, you might like that Pumpkin Regatta. They have these humongous pumpkins and carve them into canoes and float down the river whilst in costume. Not sure but I think there’s some drinking going on. Their water craft of pumpkins actually float
    With all this insanity...there’s bound to be some hammock campers in the crowd
    Damariscotta Pumpkinfest and Regatta, had to look it up, was on the tip of my tongue...
    Found the forum area, thanks!


    I will have to pass on the upcoming lobster hang, too close to plan for and I'm not fully geared up for a cold coastal overnight. That hang is only about 2 and a half hours south of me, not too bad of a travel.




    Quote Originally Posted by hutzelbein View Post
    That's not a tight hang. That actually looks like the perfect hang distance! A tight hang is when you have to start angling the tarp to fit it between the trees The real problem is the space that whoopie slings waste. And it's the main reason why I switched back to cinch buckles. But with all the options available today, it's very easy to put together a suspension that uses whoopie slings, but also works with tree distances around 11' (or whatever you tarp length is). I'm currently converting to short tree straps with Beetle Buckles, Whoopie Slings and button knot loops. With short hang distances, I will hang the button knot loops directly on the Beetle Buckles. When the length of the tree straps runs out, I can attach the button knot loops to the whoopie slings and hang the whoopies on the Beetle Buckles. I don't have long-term experience with it, but so far it looks like it is the best of both worlds.
    Yeah, I love the whoopies, but the minimum hang distance definitely cramps my setup a little. I have a distinct feeling I'm going to have multiple suspension options when I'm through finally getting my starting setup together. All I have left to add currently is a UQ rated for 40F-50F, I don't expect to spend much time below 50 but the wiggle room is always nice

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    1) whoopie slings. The required distance overhead for whoopie slings is why I stopped using them. That and dealing with adjustments in freezing rain. These days I use daisy chain but may switch over to webbing/buckles just for a change.

    2) tarp ridge line. Common lore is the ridge line goes above so it won't rub on the seam seal on the underside of the tarp. In the winter, I'd be inclined to put it under the tarp for more support because of snow and because I wouldn't be dealing with rain or much wind.

    3) water break. However, if I were to run it under the tarp I would absolutely put some kind of water break on the lines. I have a bag of those plastic "gathers" you find on bread bags. If they don't work, I can go back to the ancient drip string method.

    4) ridge line under tarp continued. You can run the ridge line under the tarp if you hang something on it - like a bug net, water bottle, clothes to dry out - but not drip. The idea is, the weight on the line will pull it down so it doesn't rub on the seam seal. But because it is running under the tarp, you WILL want a functioning water break before it reaches the hammock.

    One last point. There's a saying in mountain climbing, "Going up is optional, coming down is not." The same goes for pushing your suspension up the tree with a stick. Make sure you can get it back down later. They have been known to stick in bark instead of politely slide back down.
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    Your hang looks not all that shabby. The only thing I notice, especially in photo #4, is that the hammock is not centered under the tarp. I realize that the hammock must be closer to the left because of the way it's hung. That's okay. The tarp is also closer to the left, but if possible it could be moved over even more to better center the hammock underneath. It looks like you'd still probably be fine in anything but a really bad windstorm blowing from the foot end, but it could be improved. A water break would be hard to fit in at that end, for instance.

    Having said all that, though, I've probably set up similarly or even more lopsided when tired or hurried. If it's comfortable and you don't get wet, who cares? It only matters if the weather is bad. When the wind and rain are howling, THEN you want to be at your best. Otherwise, comfort trumps symmetry and looks every time.

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